LOL says the guy who never tried it. Why not take advice from people who have? It works, I'm not asking, I'm not making these up. I know it works. Maybe just maybe, you should try learning from people, I mean it's just common sense though.

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I'm experimenting one eye thing on my womand friends... and they got really shy, and looking other places... LOL then I told them truth and asked what they thought they said "you look so serious, like thinking something about else (dirty stuffs?)"

I'm gonna experiment on HB's, i gotta feeling its gonna be great

LOL right back at you. With experience from several cultures I can say with confidence that eye contact differs pending on where in the world you are. Using this type of intense eye contact on polish, lithuanian, estonian, russian and ukrainian women will not get you far. Same goes with japanese and korean, it is considered impolite and hostile. Here in sweded, denmark, norway and finland it is usually considered creepy.

Before assuming that I haven´t tried it, you should know that I very much have. I believe that when it first came out in the community it was called soul gazing, a stupid technique that made people believe that the eyes were the true way to get connection.

- It has no context
- It has no real value
- Makes you fokus on wrong things
- It is bullshit

When it comes to eye contact you have to be adaptible, girls with boyfriends usually don´t want you to look them deep in the eyes, with more casual eye contact they don´t put up as much resistance.

However, I admit that I have no experience with american girls, so if this is something that works on them I can not tell.

Take care!

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Sorry man, I really was just playing with you. I couldn't help it. It really does work though, I don't understand how lining up left brain to left brain would be different depending on what country your in. I know it works, I have slept with girls on the first meet with it. So I know for a fact it has value.

You are talking about the amount of eye contact which just change from culture to culture. I don't understand how it has no context. That really doesn't make any sense(do you not understand the word context? set of circumstances or facts that surround an event, situation, etc./the surrounding words in a statement modifying it's meaning). How can staring deep into someones eyes be a bad focus, though as you said culturally it could change building rapport would be similar anywhere in the world with eye contact. Just because the amount of eye contact changes doesn't mean it's effect would.

My friend married a Japanese girl and I assure you they make pretty strong eye contact, nor was she afraid to make eye contact with me or many others. When I met their family(during the wedding) they also weren't afraid to make eye contact. I have met a lot of Chinese people who make good eye contact as well, maybe our environment changes them, in the US eye contact is more important. I haven't met many Korean people so I got nothing there.

You must use the tactic in the right environment. You don't just use it from a distance that would be creepy, but you can use it at dinner on a date. You have to use these things at the right moment. If you bring an American dollar to Sweden it has no real value, just as if you bring Swedish money into the States it has no value. Value is judged by perception at this moment. Someone trapped in a mine full of gold prolly would rather value food and water then the precious metal he's trapped in a mine with. Using something improperly deflates it's value immensely.

My apologies once again for my statement I was just joking, not trying to be rude sorry sir.

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Here is where I´m at, I never meant that this never works, in fact I have had a lot of success with in southern europe. My real problem is this, as I stated in my first post:

Does it really make a diffrence? Will it really accellerate the attraction between you?

Also, the reason why I brought up my diffrent experiences was because you failed to mention where and when it takes place, which you have now.

Furthermore, what do you combine it with?

There are a lot of unanswered questions about this, especially if you do not have the reference experience required. My concern is for the reader who might be rookie, for him this is bad focus.

I love a good discussion, if you fil in my blanks and rephrase some parts of it I would be happy to give my respect for it.

Take care!

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It doesn't accelerate attraction, attraction is built differently, it accelerates intimacy. So you get to build a connection and build toward intimacy, a big part of sex for woman is intimacy. It's the old statement, "Men use intimacy to get sex, women use sex to get intimacy."

The easiest way to play it at least in the states is to play the staring game. Where you just stare at each other and see who blinks first, another thing also nice about this tactic is when you do this it also produces bedroom eyes, where your eyes gloss over and sparkle with dilated pupils.

If you are at dinner you just pay complete attention to them while you guys are talking and you maneuver yourself so you align your right eyes. If you are just talking at the bar or club and you just met, your not in the intimacy phase, your building attraction still. At a certain point though the attraction is built and you flirt and find a way to play the staring game.

Isolate then use the right eye trick, after you use the right eye trick, and the intimacy is started toward the kiss, you can use the intimacy gaze, eye to eye to lips and repeat.

You should obviously have closed the distance and have a solid amount of Kino, nothing else changes in the courtship process. You still want to elevate, this is just a trick to boost the intimacy in a short period of time.

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I think people are missing the point of this eye-contact business. This is all really about sub-communication in general. There's no power in the eye-contact, it's more about how appropriate the eye-contact is, and in what way you're looking at them.

I'm not gonna get better results BECAUSE I'm making eye-contact, but by giving them a really intense, sexual look, I'm just being suggestive. Kinda like teasing out the sexuality in the interaction.

I want to go back to this right/left eye shit. I usually focus on one pupil, but only because I like the intensity of it. If you're doing it because you believe in left/right brain hemispheres then you need to go back to the 60's, when people still believed that nonsense.

Also, I don't agree with what Common sense has said about Eastern European women seeing it a hostility (perhaps they do, but I find a certain level of "hostility" is necessary to balance their frequent "hostility" towards strangers).
As far as Swedish and Norwegian women are concerned, I've found that they LOVE that intensity. In my experience they do often get a bit withdrawn when it's done, but I don't think they think it's creepy. As long as you keep plowing through, and can be interesting, they love that intense masculinity that comes from your sub-communications. I often find they fall into this really feminine, caring, almost maternal role you set for them.

I don't actually have any concept of why it works, I though that was the reasoning but in retrospect the reasoning was never worked out. I know it works, that is what I do know. If you think it has no basis that is fine, your intense one pupil gaze can deflate as many situations as it helps if the situation doesn't call for it.

Your body language should be a masterpiece, it should all be right, that doesn't mean each piece of your body language doesn't make a difference from your eye contact, to your stance, to your face, to your shoulders, everything matters.

If you are in a situation where you are just trying to connect straight eye contact(aligning eyes) works, but as far as building intimacy for the kiss it is all about the intimacy gaze. Each tool has it's own value, use it correctly and you can most definitely gain tremendous results. If you try and bang a nail with a rock it will work but it will take forever, if you try and bang nail with a jack hammer it'll be too much, but if use a hammer or nail gun, a tool designed for such a task you get the job done efficiently, quickly, and correctly.

Your gaze may come across as too much in certain situations, everything is about advancing the interaction and understanding the timing and when to use each tool, or even if you have to at all. To me it isn't a tactic you need to use often. It is just a tool you can use given a good situation for it.

The intimate gaze builds intimacy the best when there is plenty of attraction. An intense stare can be overbearing at certain points in the courtship process especially early on.

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You see, now the advice makes sense! I love a good discussion, brings out so much more value from the subject.

So you are saying that you should lock eyes when you have closed the proximity and started touching. That advice is gold!

Take care!

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What specifically do you not agree with? What I do with my facial expressions (incl. eyes) and para-linguistics is one of my best assets. I just don't think the eyes are worth this much attention without everything else that goes with it. I get sexual by slowing down everything, pausing a lot, making intense eye contact as if I'm staring right through her, giving cheeky smiles to suggest what I'm thinking, etc...

My problem is that there isn't a fixed way of doing correct eye-contact (or body language), it's about how appropriate it is. I use these sub-communications to both push things further, as well as test how far I've come. It would be counter-productive to try some of this stuff at other points in the interaction (some not even 'til the bedroom).

If it's the left/right brain hemispheres you disagree with then it's not worth arguing over. This has been proven false. Yeah, some people are more creative, and some people are more logical but call it what it is. It's the name for process, not a real thing.

Cool topic, personally I think eye contact is great. When i look into a girls eyes I know they respond better to me, as most here agree.

The question is why is that so ??

Truth is we cant be 100% sure, and I think alot of it happens below conscious awareness

But here is a few reasons I think eye contact creates attraction .

1. it makes you look more confident
2. it makes you feel more confident
3. it lets the listener know you are totally focused of them
4. it creates a connection with sublte tension built in
5. most guys cant keep eye contact so you already stand out in a special way

Great thing I did a long time ago was just to walk around town and look every women in the eyes in a relaxed seductive way (no grannys )

It's a bit of a challenge at first but just doing that exercise alone and having the experiance will shape a powerfull new belief in your mind very quickly


When you start to hold relaxed seductive eye contact with girls you will notice the difference almost immediately , when you notice the difference you will automatically change your belief about eye contact

When your belief changes your body language , voice tonailty and vibe automatically change without having to do a damn thing.

Thats the best thing about beliefs and mindsets, once they change you dont have to remember anything , by just having the experiance 20 or 30 times without even having to open anyone you empower yourself with a new belief.

Unlike other tips which will work well with some girls and not well with others , eye contact in my experiance has a very positive effect on the person your looking at and also on yourself... or is that just a self fullfilling amazing belief ... hmm

peace