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 Post subject: Where am I going wrong?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:22 pm 
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I'm not sure I'm on the right section, but this feels the best place to vent my frustrations as I am more of a natural type of guy rather than pre-scripted conversations.

for anyone who wants to skip the long fore-story scroll to the headline below.

So here's a small background, I am very bad from woman and had very little experience although since my last relationship (a trainwreck as all of them) I got a major confidence boost when it goes to talking and approaching woman. I am 17 yet I have a really hard time finding any woman which I think might be interested in me, most give me the feeling they aren't.

Anyway, I am very new to the game, but a few things I learned are :

- Never show you're needy
- Don't compliment too much, if you treat the woman like a queen you will be treated like a peasant.
- Be different than the rest of the people
- Show confidence & be an Alpha male, don't allow the woman to ever think they're in control of the situation
- Don't let the girl know you're "chasing", give signs of interest yet don't show too much attraction.

Here is the main story

I was at a club with some friends of mine, I am a terrible dance but I believe that if you are willing to make a fool of yourself and show confidence while at it then it looks less foolish, moreover drags attention to you, I approached woman and tried to dance with them, no dice.
Afterwards I saw a woman sitting at the bar of the party, not dancing, I approached her and said :
ME : Why aren't you dancing?
Her : *shows me her feet, she's wearing heels and they hurt*
ME : Hurt even to dance with me? (Trying to show confidence, pain shouldn't be the reason not to dance with me)
Her : Probably later
ME : Will you look for me at the club?
Her : Yes

ofcourse, she disappeared shortly after leaving me disappointed in my game.

Next party, I try to make more eye contact with girls, I decided dancing isn't my strong side so I should use my words, I speak well with woman. I didn't feel like any girl is making eye contact with me nor did winking towards them had any effect, eventually I simply sat next to a girl, asked for her name & told her she looks good, not much game done here as I saw my ex at the party which ignored me and I was a little bummed out.

Anyway, the girl I talked to in the party, I added over FB after 2-3 days of the party (again, taking time is important according to posters here, never be hasting as it makes you look needy)I called her "the most beautiful girl in the party" at first, just to get the motor running I make sure I don't compliment too much. I got her number on the 2end conversations on FB (again, 2-3 days apart!) Although she didn't give it out at the first conversation.
We talked in test messages from then and I even met her once with a few friends.
Yesterday, I decided to call her to ask her out (girls in my peers think 2 weeks of knowing each other is not enough to be asked out but I detest talking to much to woman, I develop too many expectations which get trampled by them).

Anyway, she didn't pick up but she texted me she was in a rehearsal. I texted her back that I will call her later.
I decided to call her today, again not answer this time not text no nothing.

I am frustrated deeply by my game, I am a person who likes relationships and I have a very hard time attracting woman, as I wrote I tried many un-scripted methods flowing with my style and no dice.


Do you guys have any pros & cons regarding my game?
Maybe advice on how I can get this girl which I have a crush on to be more interested?

I apologize if I wrote a lot, I haven't been with a girl for almost 5-6 months which makes me very frustrated because I do go out to clubs and girls of my peers, I just don't attract them
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:06 am 
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When you said ''Will you look for me at the club? '' in a way is kinda needy, i woulda said something more like: maybe ill come and find you later so then here ur making a SPAM but when u ask the question you asked, she can just reject you right? just say like no thanks, or im leaving, or i have a bf whatever, but by saying a SPAM ur almost garenteing that she will comply.

About you crush.. instead of calling her to ask her to hang out, why not just text her something like, we should hangout blah blah blah, and then you know for sure she will see it, and then if she answers something positive then take it from there man
Ezalex


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:00 pm 
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for the other girl in the party, dont give her too many complements. and when you do complement, never complement on her looks. And I would only complement when your in a position where she is precieving you to be of higher value than her. and that be the only complement.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:37 am 
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Regardless if its pre scripted or natural, when you approach women, it has to be done with good body language and energy.

And as far as phone call goes, it's better to text most of the time.


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