Yes, I agree with this. But as a woman it really plays with your head, so if a guy could find something to follow it with for wussy women I imagine it'd be quite effective to build attraction, I assure you that the woman thinks about it a LOT afterwards lol. Though saying that it has to be inserted at the right time, if you're being friendzoned because you made lots of mistakes in your game it's not going to work, but if she's just getting to know you then you're proving your worth not to be friendzoned...get it?

I agree this method is a really slow process, also it is mostly effective on outgoing, open-minded, extrovert girls only. There are girls who were raised bound to different culture rules, societies and environment. I can't imagine telling a girl who was born and raised in Asia and Middle East to make her move, I know she won't, or at least it takes years for that to happen.

What's you doing is reverse psychology on girls, yes it is highly effective if you do it right, but there are some cons:
- You have to be really confidence, and good at controlling your frame to pull it off, unless she got sucked into your reality or she would say this in her head "Who the fuck he think he is?" ---> I can't see rAFCs pulling this off without brimming confidence.
- This is a death trap against clever highly intelligent girl, because she will throw that back at you HARD. And it will become a tug of war with both side are so stubborn to lose their frame and give in. Personally I gamed a psychologist before, and man she fucked my brain sideway.
- Based on society standards, she thinks if she makes the first move, she would be seen as a slut, now after the whole battle of thought that Angelgal mentioned earlier, the girl always have another battle between her desire to jump you vs her ASD. Again takes time ! It would be much easier if you just make the move and give her a reason to say "it just happens"
- Let's see if she does, now if you decide to keep your aloof frame for a little bit longer, you're better be damn good at maintaining your frame or you will have her doubting herself "Do I really like him? Does he even like me as much? OMG I just jump him like a slut? Do I really like him? Or was it because I'm afraid someone gonna got him before me if I dont do anything? Jealousy? Greedy ? No, I like him, That must be it."

This is the problem. They think about it afterwords when it no longer matters. While I agree with the fact that this would work it makes no sense to do it this way because while it's nice to put the ball in their court, that takes away any control you can have. How can that be a good thing?

What it really comes down to while it's good to illustrate high status with your line "there are always girls and I leave it up to the girl", it is up to you to read the signs she provides. That is how she makes her metaphorical moves(ask any courtship behavioral study scientist), standing closer, preening touching, sitting closer, touching feet, etc. Just realize she is making moves then respond accordingly. What guys don't realize is girls always start making them moves, guys are just naive and ignorant and don't realize that is her making the move.

If you don't respond to those escalations then you aren't going to stop yourself from getting friend-zoned. All you are is some guy who she gives up on because she got no response. Girls move on all the time when an initial attraction occurs and the guy doesn't respond by helping her associate any sexuality with him. It's good to keep sex on the brain and respond to her escalations.

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Hmm! All interesting points. There are two cases this has happened to me, one time it worked, the other time it hasn't but it's definitely headfucked me (hell, it's still headfucking me!) So obviously it'd take me some time to analyse both situations and figure out one time it worked and the other it didn't HOWEVER upon thinking of it, there is one thing different about the two situations, and that was KINO.

Guy one kinoed me heaps even while saying this so it created so much tension that I just had to act. Guy two whenever he meets me doesn't kino me at all, I wonder why? Another thing could have been my headspace at the time, I'm a lot less open to chances SPAM than I usually am. However, a few weeks I was about to drop everything for a guy who was kinoing me....anyways. I think the difference is kino. I guess that's contradictary, but it's like putting a piece chocolate cake in front of someone, and then eating it slowly so that they will grab it off you.

Now we are looking at a 50% success rate, and it sounds as if the only reason is he built the sexual tension by escalating through touch. To me that isn't better there then chance, it is exactly chance, only 2 options.

He wasn't holding back, he just let you think you were making the move. Pretty impressive actually, a good tactic but he didn't really put the ball in your court though you thought he did. He continued to play the game and he certainly got you involved mentally.

Sounds as if it had less to do with conversation and more to do with touch. Since you almost went for a guy anyways even though you consciously didn't want to hook up the tension was built so well that you wanted to act on your biological thoughts. Sounds like the line had nothing to do with it, though it certainly helped in owning your mind.

You can neutralize your target by letting her know you are high status and that girls come to you. However guys that work thiss already have a certain amount of "pizazz" so to speak their words have less to do with it, their body language which is the actual root of your attraction(touch was your turn on). I'm sure there was a lot more to it, but I'm sure you gave him plenty of cues for him to tease you.

I'd say the tactic holds some value but this is not what you want people doing when they are getting start in this stuff, you want them to get more aggressive and learn a little more about using the correct behavior to attract women and to follow her response curve, some women like an aggressive guy and some like a guy that eases into it and builds their comfort level truly depends on the girl and even her mood.

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