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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:24 am 
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I have been going out alot lately and my confidence has definately been boosted, however sometimes im just thinking too much but guess what i can still pull, how i hear you ask?

Just say hello to and or compliment girls i like the look of, then go back to what i was doing, talking to my friends and getting drunk.

Do this often enough and after those brief interactions you will find some women approach you within a short space of time. The good things about this are they have some interest= good and are probably away from their friends=good.

Not a tactic you should place 100% reliance on off course, but when this does pay off, and you get women approaching you like this, you should be fairly relaxed in the knowledge they have some interest in you, and of course if they are interested pulling them wont be difficult.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:10 am 
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this wouldnt work
and you shouldnt compliment random girls a neg would go off better


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:03 pm 
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this wouldnt work
and you shouldnt compliment random girls a neg would go off better
I hope you're joking, but I worry you're being serious.

Women LOVE compliments, and they are the simplest, most effective way to start a conversation - with ANYONE. The only problem, is sometimes a compliment will come off as rapport-seeking behaviour - like buying a drink, to "make them like you" rather than saying it because you really mean it. That comes down to a confident delivery, voice tonality, body language, and your choice of words.

Negs are vastly overrated, often incorrectly used, and terribly misleading guys who just need simple social skills.

To the OP - absolutely compliment the girl - but why leave and hope she comes back? Why not just stay in the interaction after the compliment and just have a normal conversation with her and find out about her?

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this wouldnt work
and you shouldnt compliment random girls a neg would go off better
I hope you're joking, but I worry you're being serious.

Women LOVE compliments, and they are the simplest, most effective way to start a conversation - with ANYONE. The only problem, is sometimes a compliment will come off as rapport-seeking behaviour - like buying a drink, to "make them like you" rather than saying it because you really mean it. That comes down to a confident delivery, voice tonality, body language, and your choice of words.

Negs are vastly overrated, often incorrectly used, and terribly misleading guys who just need simple social skills.

To the OP - absolutely compliment the girl - but why leave and hope she comes back? Why not just stay in the interaction after the compliment and just have a normal conversation with her and find out about her?

Its not something i would rely on 100% "you shouldnt rely on anything 100% thats an unhealthy attitude to have. If your not feeling confident enough to make much more of a conversation with the girl though, why not? If they then approach me shortly after well i just feel at ease and it seems like plain sailing from then on.

NOTE I dont cry myself to sleep that night if this fails


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:27 am 
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yeah, it deff does work.. I had a MILF at my old job..i'd say a 9 but mature so I'd lean towards 10 just cuz i like that kinda shit.. I told her something she was checking out would look good on her.. then I went on to talking to other girls & working.. 10 minutes later she was gaming ME.. asking me where I was from, telling me how she could tell im from NY, blah blah blah.. telling me I'm charismatic and a smooth talker..

But the compliment HAS to be original and genuine.. or I can def see you getting shot down. and I think a big part of it is using pre-selection and social proof to kinda Sniper DHV yourself without even talking to her and that gives her a reason to chase you or at least wanna know more about you.

but dont sleep on this, it definitely works.


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this wouldnt work
and you shouldnt compliment random girls a neg would go off better
I hope you're joking, but I worry you're being serious.

Women LOVE compliments, and they are the simplest, most effective way to start a conversation - with ANYONE. The only problem, is sometimes a compliment will come off as rapport-seeking behaviour - like buying a drink, to "make them like you" rather than saying it because you really mean it. That comes down to a confident delivery, voice tonality, body language, and your choice of words.

Negs are vastly overrated, often incorrectly used, and terribly misleading guys who just need simple social skills.

To the OP - absolutely compliment the girl - but why leave and hope she comes back? Why not just stay in the interaction after the compliment and just have a normal conversation with her and find out about her?
I think its cause its easy to get stuck in that PUA mindset where you wanna look unavailable and hard to get, and giving her a compliment and sticking around for her conversation feels needy to most PUA dudes who are used to being indirect.

I'll try it that way just to see how it works though.


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this wouldnt work
and you shouldnt compliment random girls a neg would go off better
I hope you're joking, but I worry you're being serious.

Women LOVE compliments, and they are the simplest, most effective way to start a conversation - with ANYONE. The only problem, is sometimes a compliment will come off as rapport-seeking behaviour - like buying a drink, to "make them like you" rather than saying it because you really mean it. That comes down to a confident delivery, voice tonality, body language, and your choice of words.

Negs are vastly overrated, often incorrectly used, and terribly misleading guys who just need simple social skills.

To the OP - absolutely compliment the girl - but why leave and hope she comes back? Why not just stay in the interaction after the compliment and just have a normal conversation with her and find out about her?
I think its cause its easy to get stuck in that PUA mindset where you wanna look unavailable and hard to get, and giving her a compliment and sticking around for her conversation feels needy to most PUA dudes who are used to being indirect.

I'll try it that way just to see how it works though.
yes sir exactly my point


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:24 pm 
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I hope you're joking, but I worry you're being serious.

Women LOVE compliments, and they are the simplest, most effective way to start a conversation - with ANYONE. The only problem, is sometimes a compliment will come off as rapport-seeking behaviour - like buying a drink, to "make them like you" rather than saying it because you really mean it. That comes down to a confident delivery, voice tonality, body language, and your choice of words.

Negs are vastly overrated, often incorrectly used, and terribly misleading guys who just need simple social skills.

To the OP - absolutely compliment the girl - but why leave and hope she comes back? Why not just stay in the interaction after the compliment and just have a normal conversation with her and find out about her?
I think its cause its easy to get stuck in that PUA mindset where you wanna look unavailable and hard to get, and giving her a compliment and sticking around for her conversation feels needy to most PUA dudes who are used to being indirect.

I'll try it that way just to see how it works though.
yes sir exactly my point

You seem to be missing the point, the fact that you send out a compliment shouldn't be that you are trying to get a girl. You should be complimenting people everyday. It should always be genuine and very personal, confidence, tonality and body language are very important, you should listen to Ryan, he's spot on with his advice. Ryan knows his stuff and a lot of us have a lot of respect for the words he writes, I very rarely don't get something out of his posts. If you aren't getting something out of his posts you should open up your mind some.

Open your mind up and try getting over Verbal Communication, if that is your only form of communication you have a problem. Every time you speak it is estimated you send up to 12 non-verbal messages hands, face, eyes, head, feet, legs, torso, arms, etc. You should be more focused on the larger part of your message.

Often times with body language we give our value, that value we can lower when we walk up to someone and say oh you are better then me. When you walk up to a girl and say "You are gorgeous!" your body language may be saying you are way to good for me. You need to be saying "You are gorgeous!", and you are no better then me. A lot of times people will compliment but in doing so be saying they are below the other person with their body language.

This is the problem when people compliment, they say you are better then me. When I compliment I make them feel good by elevating their mood and status, at the same time saying my body language speaks of confidence, my tone speaks of confidence, and I am saying good now you are at my level, that is you feel as good as I do.

Complimenting is a very good thing, you should immediately stop giving advice condemning it. In fact you should go out and compliment 5 people(either sex) a day with a genuine smile, confident body language, and tonality. Tell me whether you think you had a better effect on people making you a more attractive person.

One thing about compliments is I generally steer away from physical aesthetics(natural looks), complimenting clothes, jewelry, shoes, behavior, body language, personality related things, choices she makes. Once you are in a more intimate environment you can switch to aesthetics be warned you want to let a women know you are complimenting her not her outer shell.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:08 pm 
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Ha! I once complemented a girl on her sense of style and she called it out as sounding too forced. She said she would rather have complimented her on her boobs (which were definitely worth complimenting) but I did not just to sound unique and cool. She would have rather my compliment be genuine (and obvious?). Made sense, but I was being genuine and unique. So vary it up, sometimes, fucking say "hey great tits, ass, forehead," whatever and leave it at that. I guess if it showed you were confident enough to say so with the right body language, it might work in your favor.

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Ha! I once complemented a girl on her sense of style and she called it out as sounding too forced. She said she would rather have complimented her on her boobs (which were definitely worth complimenting) but I did not just to sound unique and cool. She would have rather my compliment be genuine (and obvious?). Made sense, but I was being genuine and unique. So vary it up, sometimes, fucking say "hey great tits, ass, forehead," whatever and leave it at that. I guess if it showed you were confident enough to say so with the right body language, it might work in your favor.

I like your sense of style? That is forced and generic. You need to use SPECIFICS on their compliment so they know it is genuine to them. You don't say I like your get up, you pick certain parts and compliment them on choosing them. "Those earrings are phenomenal, that green perfectly compliments your shirt. Well Done!" You choose specifics, so they know you thought up this compliment for her. If the compliment sounds like it can be for anyone then it will seem as it is rudimentary and you just say it to girls regularly, a good example is "I like your sense of style". If you add to the statement, adjectives specifically you will get more acceptance with your compliments.

Complimenting a girls tits, ass, aesthetics is middle school, shows a lack of class. Certain girls would be cool with these all the time, some girls would be cool with it in certain moods, but the point is not every girls is cool with it. You failed to realize she was making a point, your compliment was so generic you would have been more specific to compliment her ass or tits.

Side Note: If a girl seems to point attention towards her boobs, attempts to show cleavage, brings your attention to them, seem to wear them as a trophy for all to adore then yes a compliment is acceptable but if you walk up and out the blue say that you will offend more then a few of them. If they want people to notice their boobs they would surely enjoy the compliment. This is the same for the ass, legs, etc., just make sure you aren't some creepy bastard.

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This reminds me of something that happened quite a while ago,.. before I even really knew pickup existed.

There was this girl I worked with who was really shy - I've always been a social guy,.. so I had said "Hi" to her a number of times in passing,.. but the response I always got was her looking directly at the floor, kinda slouching,.. and responding in a muffled, almost squeaky voice "hi" before she scurried away.

She was hot - and I wanted to have more of an interaction with her,.. but how do you deal with that, you know? Every other guy that worked there seemed to be stuck in the same predicament.

One thing that was unique about her was the way she dressed,.. always in floor length dresses, very conservative, but every outfit she had clearly put a ton of time in matching every piece of jewelry, shoes, purse,.. none of it expensive, some even hand made it looked like, or bought at art shows, but very carefully planned out, and unique.

One day she happened to come into work in a shell motif. I'm a saltwater enthusiast, and I just had to say something,.. I got her to stop when I said something along the lines of liking what she'd done with her ear rings. I got her to stay around for more than a quarter second when I said I keep the type of animal she had as the centerpiece of the necklace and asked if she'd like to see a picture of one in the wild. (I had it on my phone) I got a little smile,.. and maybe even her to look up slightly when I said that she did a great job of putting together a saltwater onsomble.

But what really turned the tide is when I said "I notice you always put allot of thought and effort into the way your dressed, you have a very unique and interesting look. Weren't you wearing a Blue motief the other day? With sapphire in your ears, on your ring, and blue stones in your shoes?" She actually lit up - Looked me right in the eyes for the first time ever, and smiled ear to ear saying "And my necklace! Did you see that?"

She didn't stop being shy,.. but ever since then I could talk to her much more easily.

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