Hows it going guys. I've begun trying to learn and acquire natural game and build my personality and characteristics, but I just don't know if its working. My main problem like I've read in so many posts is my lack of ability to make conversation. And this isn't only to girls, this also with my friends. I'm a sophomore in college and was able to luckily meet a few "naturals/alphas" that I consider some of my good friends. While I have had success in the past, recently, I've come to realize that I can never get past a minute or two of conversation with a girl, and even worst I can't socialize (shoot the shit, f around, etc.) with my friends as much or as well as the rest of the guys. I realize this stems from the fact that I was anti-social (gamer, loner, however the also the "goofy class clown") and never had a real group of friends until my later years in highschool. Cultural differences and a history with weight and skin problems are main reasons for this. I've found the main obstacles that i'm trying to change are a lack of opinions, feelings, thoughts, lack of witt (not spontaneous), and I can just be plain boring. I've researched this and have found these might be symptoms of depression, but I am not really depressed and come to develop self-love. What I want to know is if this is something I can overcome by myself with just learning about natural game, and observing my friends, or do i need more help than that. I'm real sorry for this long post.. just needed to get it off my chest.

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Your main problem is your doubting that you can do this, when its not really all that hard, start telling yourself you can first off

Ill go off some main points for game convo's

1. tease, tease, TEASE. Women can not get enough of the fact your not biting into their cute bullshit, and that you dont think shes the best thing in the world.

2.Thread off conversations and don't be afraid to talk SEXUAL, this makes a woman wonder why your not so reserved good boy in front of her.

3.Talk about most of the things that you can really get into, when you speak, speak with passion and purpose, your not running a routine you are speaking from your soul for rapport.

4.Be fucking funny, girls love to laugh, everyone loves to laugh. Bring out that class clown.

Make sure when you telegraph interest it's not physical
Make sure when you naturally speak, you speak from your heart, and you are being you, and if they can't take the best of you, fuck em, someone else will.

Do you want it?
Go and get it.

Fender43

Girls love talking about themselves. Ask open questions, listen, and make statements.

You: Whats your major?
Her: Blah blah blah education.
You: Oh, that's cool.

Boring, you're not leading the conversation anywhere.

You: Whats your major?
Her: Blah blah blah education.
You: That's awesome, you must like kids then?
Her: Blah blah blah.
You: Me too! I actually just took my llittle cousins to the zoo the other day.
Her: Blah blah blah.

See what I mean. Just get them going, at some points you wont have to really do anything but sit there and act like you care.

As for guys, SPORTS.

Yeah, its weird because I feel like i lost that throughout college. Maybe its the fact that I realized that my goofiness in highschool was one of those laugh at, not laugh with situations. And my humor now basically boils down to self-demeaning humor, which i'm totally fine with. However, I look around my friends and the outer world and find that a big thing I'm missing is wit and just overall knowledge of the culture (ability to quote movies, funny sayings, etc.). Is there anyway i can develop that? I am working on my diction by reading more and trying to memorize lines, but it's so weird how I have to really try and memorize this stuff, while everyone around me can just watch/listen to something once and remember everything. (listen to a song and remember most of it, watch a movie once and being able to recite all the funny lines).

With that, I understand sports is a big thing for guys. But it just sucks that I can't communicate with my friends on the same level that I see them doing it. Busting on each other, and just being able to take a conversation anywhere. I try to take mental notes of what people say/how they say it and lead it, but I don't know whenever I try to join/start a conversation I just draw a complete blank, or can only add in a few points to it. I just feel empty sometimes outside looking in..

I feel like my memory and mind is really weak.

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I have seen the promised land