Number one - Touch from the first few seconds you meet them

One of the easiest ways to touch from the start is to get introduction, you ask their name and you shake their hand and tell them your name.

Other places thats good to start touching to keep her attention is the elbow area or round the tricep, you also want to be touching when making a point, increasing the volume of your voice or when asking a question.

Remember to do this with the back of your hand (your knuckles) briefly for about half a second and don't look at what your touching just talk on like you don't even notice you're doing it

Now I want to get rid of a myth, the myth is that you shouldn't lean in, this is total bullshit! you just don't lean in when the girl has back turned you or is clearly backing off from you

I lean in alot in clubs, It looks like I'm going in for a kiss, its really hard to explain, but you do it to talk into her ear because its really loud, its natural and its justified and you can escalate really quick, I have a video you should watch from keys to the vip, the guy in it (Josh) has great body language and has his kino down, if you mimic this guys body language and kino you'll be set

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHyt1BscZdg

(word of warning this post is for night game in clubs, daytime is alot different and I'm not the guy you should be asking about daygame because I never do it, where I live day game doesn't make any sense because its a small to medium town and everyone knows everyone even if its just to see)

That makes sense to me. "Don't lean in" might be a good guideline for guys that are unconscious of their bodies, or learning to develop a consciousness. But some of us have an understanding of our bodies from other pursuits, such as the martial arts, or dancing, or whatever. Would a UFC fighter ever worry about whether "leaning in" makes him vulnerable to an opponent or not? No, not at a certain moment in the fight. He could be leaning in to totally dominate and destroy his opponent. Now, a woman is not exactly an opponent. The point I'm trying to make is, if you understand your physical presence, you can do what you want. Your physical presence is communication, and I can definitely imagine ways to project strength when leaning in, not weakness. You may not be able to explain it, Ramlives, but you know what you mean, because you just go do it.

I'm learning a lot in this subforum about body language that I was rather unconscious of. I'm also finding that I can translate it to what I know about body language from the martial arts. I read hostile males rather well, so why not use the same full awareness of your "opponent" and your surroundings during a pickup?

I had already figured out half of that, to use the same sense of calm, the slowing of time and intent, the quietness, as when an angry male is standing toe to toe with you and getting in your face. The quiet, unfazed response is rather disturbing to guys who are expecting their posturing to make you scared. As it should, because they have picked on the wrong guy, and they're already standing in my kill zone. I can do whatever I want when toe to toe, it's the core of what I've been trained for, and they've made it easy for me. Just a matter of time of waiting for this loser to get done grunting like a gorilla, or finally make his move and get clobbered.

There is a Roman saying: "A dog who is barking is not biting." Bark on. Guys always have to bark on, because they have to keep looking like they were tough, and save face. But the body language has said um, this isn't working, this guy is actually strong. Possibly stronger than me, and he's going to make me find out, it's not going to be free. So they're actually in retreat mode, but they'll spew and spew... let 'em spew, there's no need to egg 'em on, provoke, or tease them. They're bowing out, you've won, even if he can't see it, won't admit it, and nobody else sees it. Doesn't matter, his fight is a big waste of your time, and you made him go away. Er, you gave him the opportunity to realize he had better things to do.

Now, uuh, bringing this back to the ladies... just remember that a wristlock is not a form of intimacy, LOL!