Unwanted attraction from Natural Game?



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:54 pm 
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Sorry if there's a thread like this, couldn't find it in a search

So I'm an rAFC, focusing a lot on inner game/natural game. I think I'm having success improving my posture, diction, 'fun', confidence and playfulness etc, trying to be alpha. My question is, if this is supposed to be 'how you live your life'/ a habit, not an act, then is it ever right to turn it off? Because a couple of times now I've started getting IOIs from unwanted areas - friends' girlfriends etc. I could easily imagine a better PUA than me getting attention from whales or whatever.

So, do you just act AFC at times? Surely that would be counterproductive since if you're at, say, a party, you're trying to be the 'best' person possible (to attract single girls) but at the same time, girls you don't want to attract are there. On the other hand, you can't just say 'Look stop giving me IOIs' to your friend's g/f, although I guess playfully saying 'stop flirting!' might work in some situations.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:55 pm 
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just enjoy the attention it’s up to you to act on it. if I get IOI's from a big girl i don’t mind and most of time she will give her hot friends permission to bang you. win/win


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What reckless said. I've had it before, I just friendly eject and/or try to ignore them. People can't help who they're attracted to, if your friend's girlfriends are acting like sluts, that's not your fault. You shouldn't have to change who you are to accommodate other people's short comings. Your friends are coming up short, if anything, you should let them know that they aren't doing enough. To be safe, don't say its with you, just say you saw them acting too friendly with someone else.

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I think that's a fantastic situation. Since most girls won't do any initiation beyond giving IOI's you can simply not make moves on girls you aren't interested in, thus putting yourself in the position of being the sexual selector. If a girl does actually make a move you can let her down easy with something like "you're not my type" or "I don't fool around with my friends' girlfriends."

Plus, if you play up the flirting with your friends' girlfriends and make them laugh and stuff, this should work well for broadcasting pre-selection and get other nearby girls interested just by virtue of the fact that you're having fun with other girls.


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I would say enjoy the attention, but don't do any real game on them.
Use them as social proof to get your target.
It will show that you are a fun person and attract more attention.

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I think attraction from other people is a good thing no matter who you are getting it from. The problem is, what most girls do after they are attracted to a guy is try to get you into commitment with them.

As much as we PUA's wish we could break down the barriers and shackles of closed relationships the expectation in our culture is if two people like eachother and express their interest then they are in an exclusive relationship. You can't start grinding with an HB6 and then just move over to her HB9 friend and just expect her to grind with you and leave her friend in the dust. You've already offered a sign of commitment to the one girl which everyone else in the room sees and acknowledges, you're hers now. If you jump to the HB9 she'll think you're a dick.

Of course, you can leave her and go to other girls in other sets and probably be very successful with them, but now you've shown yourself to be a player and the girls in the room that aren't looking for that kind of guy(most girls actually) will automatically put up their shields when you approach them.

You need to learn to get other people to give you IOI's and be attracted to you without giving them any other signs that couldn't be interpretted by those around you as friendship.

Casanova would light up a whole room and make everyone like him with his charm, then he would tell stories of his sexual exploits to get the girls thinking about the right topics. Then he could isolate his targets and get what he wanted from them.

He would spend the whole night and wouldn't select any single target. Then it would come as a complete shock when he would isolate the girl he had been after the whole time and seduce her.


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I would say any attention is good attention and exactly what you are working for. As you get IOIs from friends girll remember that it may just mean they are bored and want to find out what you are about. Just treat her as a friend and tell her to back off if she starts getting into uncomfortable territory. Get into a (non sexual/attract) conversation. These are good opportunities because you know you will not be pushing the attraction envelope, and you can get experience talking with women. You can try out different techniques and conversational threads without the threat of rejection. Plus, the more women you are seen talking to at a bar/etc. builds social status. As for unwanted attention (fatties), remember these are still people. So be polite and chat for a few seconds, then say you have to get back to your friends, or some other excuse. If they persue just tell them you have a girlfriend. Don't blow them out because they may have a hot friend that you may want to get with.

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I have gotten that, I have had some issues with a few different girls doing that. In fact more than a few. When a friend's wife, or girlfriend does certain things it certainly makes me uncomfortable. I have had this happen several times. You can't avoid it but you can choose not to allow it to happen.


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I've run into these situations a lot and it takes a little while to adjust to them. Interestingly enough once you are open with your feelings (physically - body language) and don't give them any IOIs but talk to them just like you would with anybody, they wont lose interest. Yet they should get the message (best without you saying it) that you are not interested in them.
Girls are much better then us at picking up IOIs so try and be confident and alpha without actually giving any IOIs. If you manage to find that balance, these girls will often become perfect wings. It's happened to me on a few occasions where these girls actually just become my friends (sometimes within a very short time) and introduce you to their friends. If you play it really well they might even try to hook you up with one of their friends that they consider more "in your league".

So bottom line any attention is good as mentioned before, but don't always just reduce it to game. If you tone down your game, you'll make friends on top of things and gain social status, which in clubs and night game can be so important.

Hope I could help.

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Thanks everyone, v helpful

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Everyone's already said this, but social-proof like that is a good thing.


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