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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:34 pm 
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I need to throw in a few facts first to preface this.

1) I was socially retarded for ~20 years, currently a 21 year old at a state college
2) After I read about inner-game/natural-game I lost my AA almost over night. I open every set at any venue, comfortably.
3) I've been told I'm ~6 in looks, I've got athletic/ripped build, I wear tight clothes, and I assume attraction.

That said, I've run into major problems. The first one is transitioning into an interesting topic. I've bored lone girls/sets within minutes. My hobbies are lifting, poker, chess. Every topic about poker/chess has ended poorly, so I've stopped using them.

I've also instantly lost interest talking about school/majors. Probably because a lot of AFC's use those topics and I don't make them sound any more interesting.

In day game at school, I'm able to get numbers of single girls but they usually flake. I might be DLVing without realizing it, because I don't think I need to raise my value. What are common DLV's you run into in college classes/parties?

Also...
1) what are some topics single girls/sets of girls like talking about?
2) when/how can i transition smoothly into a dhv, and do i need to do it?
3) how do i raise a girl's buying temperature?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:28 am 
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Hi, dude. Im in college as well.

I think the best way is do not fix in one topic and keep the conversation flowing, picking out one interesting part of the onging conversation and shift/expand it to something/somewhere else.

We started talking about our previous work experience where I mentioned one interesting experience that my buddy and I got harassed by a gay designer..and so on.

Hope it helps. This is coming from another AFC.


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Just curious...what types of books about inner game/natural have you read that helped you get over your AA b/c I still have that.


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Just curious...what types of books about inner game/natural have you read that helped you get over your AA b/c I still have that.
Didn't need any books. It took like 2-3 articles and 10-20 minutes of soul searching before I went to bed.

When you see yourself in the future with a hot girlfriend and happy life, what do you picture yourself looking like? That's like your 'core' or the 'ideal you'. Once the 'real you' matches the 'core you', your self-esteem skyrockets.

After that, you need to realize that social value does not exist. The only thing that exists is masculinity. You realize that you are the man, you're more interesting than everyone around you, and all girls are attracted to you.

Small things about you change.

- You don't walk quickly, but you move with purpose. Spine straight, head forward, shoulders never still, arms moving naturally, chest slightly out.
- You give everyone eye contact and continue to hold it with any girls you find attractive until they look away.
- You don't speak right away, and your words come out firmly.
- You don't react to anything trivial right away.
- You don't laugh or even feign a smile at another guy's jokes if they are not funny and you are not friends.
- You seek approval from no one
- If someone breaks rapport with you or does anything to displease you, you cut them off
- You don't laugh at your own jokes until others are laughing
- You don't glare/stare at girls, you look at them with bedroom eyes
- You NEVER apologize for any of your actions. You are yourself, and you happen to be the man.
- You NEVER make any excuses for actions. If you get called out on something, it does not matter. People don't get to judge you, because you are the man.
- Yo DO NOT worry about consequences. You do what you want because you are invincible, let others worry about the consequences.
- You DO NOT touch your face when you see a hot girl and feel the urge to
- You sit straight with your legs out far and wide
- You NEVER break eye contact first with a girl you find attractive
- You NEVER give away anything easily. Not your approval, compliments, food, booze, seat, ground. Literally nothing. Not to anyone, friends included. Even if it means nothing to you. Let no one take anything for granted with you.
- No rules apply to you. PUA rules don't matter. The rules I listed don't matter. Nothing matters...

... Just you. And the girl looking back at you. And she wants to have sex with you because you are the man. Everything you do is right, and it's natural, because you are the man...

...If a girl looks at you,
She wants to have sex with you.
- moves her hand through her hair, she wants to have sex with you
- touches her face, she wants to have sex with you
- mirrors your actions when you are sitting, she wants to have sex with you
- clears her throat, she wants to have sex with you
--> and because you're the man, you do what you want... if you want to talk to her, you take it for granted and do it with ease.

... When approach a girl to open her
- you are not nervous
- your hands are not sweaty
- you are not worried about her reaction
- you are not worried about the outcome of the situation
- you do not become a different person
- you assume she's attracted to you and wants to have sex with you
- you are the prize, not her
- YOU HAVE THE FRAME AND YOU DO NOT LET HER TAKE IT
---- If she asks a question that won't help you, ignore it
---- If you don't get the answer you like to a question, rephrase it
---- If she puts up a shield, plow through it
---- You do not punish her, neg her, or show any reaction at all to petty things she does that piss you off. Nothing she says or does could ever have a negative effect on you, let alone get a reaction.
- she is just another girl, there are a million like her, and nothing about her makes her superior to you in any way, shape, or form

This is just pure masculinity, and complete disregard for anything else. Perception is reality. Once you realize you're the man, you take it for granted, and YOU ARE THE MAN. You stop doing small DLV's and give off a great vibe while DHVing without even realizing it. Others pick up on it and give you respect, girls find you masculine and therefore attractive.

Your interaction won't always go well. You will get blown out of sets sometimes. But you are never apologetic about it, you never regret it, and you never let it affect you. And as a result, the situation never turns awkward, and you never lose anyone's respect. This is why you never worry about consequences.

My frame isn't great. I constantly say the wrong things. I'm negative when I should be positive. I neg without thinking about it. I bore girls and get blown out of sets constantly. I can't get past bitch shields. I get numbers and girls flake.

And I could give a fuck less. I'm improving. Every new girl I meet is always attracted to me whether she's a 1 or 10. It doesn't matter how many times I mess up because I will always find more girls I like to talk to. I'm never nervous, never apologetic, and never remorseful.

That's my take on natural game. My view on life shifted and I completely lost my AA overnight.


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- You don't walk quickly, but you move with purpose. Spine straight, head forward, shoulders never still, arms moving naturally, chest slightly out.
- You give everyone eye contact and continue to hold it with any girls you find attractive until they look away.
- You don't speak right away, and your words come out firmly.
- You don't react to anything trivial right away.
- You don't laugh or even feign a smile at another guy's jokes if they are not funny and you are not friends.
- You seek approval from no one
- If someone breaks rapport with you or does anything to displease you, you cut them off
- You don't laugh at your own jokes until others are laughing
- You don't glare/stare at girls, you look at them with bedroom eyes
- You NEVER apologize for any of your actions. You are yourself, and you happen to be the man.
- You NEVER make any excuses for actions. If you get called out on something, it does not matter. People don't get to judge you, because you are the man.
- Yo DO NOT worry about consequences. You do what you want because you are invincible, let others worry about the consequences.
- You DO NOT touch your face when you see a hot girl and feel the urge to
- You sit straight with your legs out far and wide
- You NEVER break eye contact first with a girl you find attractive
- You NEVER give away anything easily. Not your approval, compliments, food, booze, seat, ground. Literally nothing. Not to anyone, friends included. Even if it means nothing to you. Let no one take anything for granted with you.
- No rules apply to you. PUA rules don't matter. The rules I listed don't matter. Nothing matters...

... Just you. And the girl looking back at you. And she wants to have sex with you because you are the man. Everything you do is right, and it's natural, because you are the man...

...If a girl looks at you,
She wants to have sex with you.
- moves her hand through her hair, she wants to have sex with you
- touches her face, she wants to have sex with you
- mirrors your actions when you are sitting, she wants to have sex with you
- clears her throat, she wants to have sex with you
--> and because you're the man, you do what you want... if you want to talk to her, you take it for granted and do it with ease.

... When approach a girl to open her
- you are not nervous
- your hands are not sweaty
- you are not worried about her reaction
- you are not worried about the outcome of the situation
- you do not become a different person
- you assume she's attracted to you and wants to have sex with you
- you are the prize, not her
- YOU HAVE THE FRAME AND YOU DO NOT LET HER TAKE IT
---- If she asks a question that won't help you, ignore it
---- If you don't get the answer you like to a question, rephrase it
---- If she puts up a shield, plow through it
---- You do not punish her, neg her, or show any reaction at all to petty things she does that piss you off. Nothing she says or does could ever have a negative effect on you, let alone get a reaction.
- she is just another girl, there are a million like her, and nothing about her makes her superior to you in any way, shape, or form
Dude if you got all of that down, I'm pretty sure you are not DLVing yourself. You know how they say the simplest way to get girls is to have balls and make the girls laugh. Well the "balls" aspect is everything you listed above, so maybe you are just boring? Like straight up. Research about fun and how to make girls laugh.

And check out some articles on college game and what to talk about, but they will mostly tell u to talk about normal stuff......

Or I just thought of this one, like you said you assume attraction maybe the girl is reading that as you are too good for her and you are not really showing interest in her, so when you ask her out she is confused....

Think about it

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Just curious...what types of books about inner game/natural have you read that helped you get over your AA b/c I still have that.
Didn't need any books. It took like 2-3 articles and 10-20 minutes of soul searching before I went to bed.

When you see yourself in the future with a hot girlfriend and happy life, what do you picture yourself looking like? That's like your 'core' or the 'ideal you'. Once the 'real you' matches the 'core you', your self-esteem skyrockets.

After that, you need to realize that social value does not exist. The only thing that exists is masculinity. You realize that you are the man, you're more interesting than everyone around you, and all girls are attracted to you.

Small things about you change.

- You don't walk quickly, but you move with purpose. Spine straight, head forward, shoulders never still, arms moving naturally, chest slightly out.
- You give everyone eye contact and continue to hold it with any girls you find attractive until they look away.
- You don't speak right away, and your words come out firmly.
- You don't react to anything trivial right away.
- You don't laugh or even feign a smile at another guy's jokes if they are not funny and you are not friends.
- You seek approval from no one
- If someone breaks rapport with you or does anything to displease you, you cut them off
- You don't laugh at your own jokes until others are laughing
- You don't glare/stare at girls, you look at them with bedroom eyes
- You NEVER apologize for any of your actions. You are yourself, and you happen to be the man.
- You NEVER make any excuses for actions. If you get called out on something, it does not matter. People don't get to judge you, because you are the man.
- Yo DO NOT worry about consequences. You do what you want because you are invincible, let others worry about the consequences.
- You DO NOT touch your face when you see a hot girl and feel the urge to
- You sit straight with your legs out far and wide
- You NEVER break eye contact first with a girl you find attractive
- You NEVER give away anything easily. Not your approval, compliments, food, booze, seat, ground. Literally nothing. Not to anyone, friends included. Even if it means nothing to you. Let no one take anything for granted with you.
- No rules apply to you. PUA rules don't matter. The rules I listed don't matter. Nothing matters...

... Just you. And the girl looking back at you. And she wants to have sex with you because you are the man. Everything you do is right, and it's natural, because you are the man...

...If a girl looks at you,
She wants to have sex with you.
- moves her hand through her hair, she wants to have sex with you
- touches her face, she wants to have sex with you
- mirrors your actions when you are sitting, she wants to have sex with you
- clears her throat, she wants to have sex with you
--> and because you're the man, you do what you want... if you want to talk to her, you take it for granted and do it with ease.

... When approach a girl to open her
- you are not nervous
- your hands are not sweaty
- you are not worried about her reaction
- you are not worried about the outcome of the situation
- you do not become a different person
- you assume she's attracted to you and wants to have sex with you
- you are the prize, not her
- YOU HAVE THE FRAME AND YOU DO NOT LET HER TAKE IT
---- If she asks a question that won't help you, ignore it
---- If you don't get the answer you like to a question, rephrase it
---- If she puts up a shield, plow through it
---- You do not punish her, neg her, or show any reaction at all to petty things she does that piss you off. Nothing she says or does could ever have a negative effect on you, let alone get a reaction.
- she is just another girl, there are a million like her, and nothing about her makes her superior to you in any way, shape, or form

This is just pure masculinity, and complete disregard for anything else. Perception is reality. Once you realize you're the man, you take it for granted, and YOU ARE THE MAN. You stop doing small DLV's and give off a great vibe while DHVing without even realizing it. Others pick up on it and give you respect, girls find you masculine and therefore attractive.

Your interaction won't always go well. You will get blown out of sets sometimes. But you are never apologetic about it, you never regret it, and you never let it affect you. And as a result, the situation never turns awkward, and you never lose anyone's respect. This is why you never worry about consequences.

My frame isn't great. I constantly say the wrong things. I'm negative when I should be positive. I neg without thinking about it. I bore girls and get blown out of sets constantly. I can't get past bitch shields. I get numbers and girls flake.

And I could give a fuck less. I'm improving. Every new girl I meet is always attracted to me whether she's a 1 or 10. It doesn't matter how many times I mess up because I will always find more girls I like to talk to. I'm never nervous, never apologetic, and never remorseful.

That's my take on natural game. My view on life shifted and I completely lost my AA overnight.
Holy fuck

That was the most manly thing I've ever read on this forum

I'm actually going to print that out


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