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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:04 pm 
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I'm only an asshole if a girl pisses me off or trys to play games with me. In that case I just start telling them straight out to "f*ck off" and turn away from them. But only do this if they really piss you off.


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it is really the "nice guy" who is unhealthy.
AMEN.... I mean seriously, we live in a crazy-dog eat dog world. It is completely "unfair".

Any person that thinks it is some sort of virtue to be altruistic and giving is completely MISINFORMED.... The strong survive and thrive.

Look what happened to the guy that said "Turn the other cheek!"


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To the OP, don't be a prick. But ball-bust, tease and call people out all you want.

I always tell girls that there are 2 types of assholes: good assholes and bad assholes.

Good assholes tell girls "you're way too nice for me", "wow...your social skills are surprisingly awful" and if she asks him if she looks fat in those jeans, he says"...let me see it from the other side."

Bad assholes are just cruel fucks. They're negative, annoying and come off as needy and as someone no one wants to be around.

Be the first one and if you can't figure out how to do it exactly or lose state, just go back to this: be positive, be confident and say/convey a ton of false disqualifiers...that'll get you wherever you want to go.


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i think what he was getting at was how to be straight forward. i get called an asshole at times but everyone knows im joking and im nice when i need to be.

its all about calibration. i dont think hes wanting to be like that guy in the video and just straight be a douchebag to the girl. but i think he wants to be more of the cocky funny with a lil touch of asshole. which means cocky funny= attraction. asshole= MAYBE short term attraction, and if it does work, they get buyers remorse

but i agree with everyone here, you dont want to just be some asshole prick who constantly belittles people. i mean jokes are one thing but you dont wanna just go up to a girl and say hey, run on a treadmill your gettin chunky. like i said calibration. as long as you can say stuff jokingly and not cross the line then you should be fine. but as soon as you do cross that line recognize it and apologize. alot of guys think that apologizing isnt "alpha" but id rather risk looking a little beta and her realize i was only joking then her thinking your a douchebag whose insecure about himself

but anyways thats my opinion on it.

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well, if your goal is to get a girl home tonight... I don't think being an asshole is the best way to go. Also I would never recommend being an asshole or jerk on purpose, 'cause let's face it... it just ain't cool.

However...

From my experience, this is definitely one of 2 ways I've come across to get a girl totally (and I mean totally) obsessed with you. But it takes time. I have never been absolutely mean on purpose, but some girls when they get angry, will not listen to any explanation afterwards. So in one case, I said something to a beautiful girl in a club.. it was loud... she misheard it and thought I gave her an incredibly bad insult (I wish I could remember what I actually said and what she thought I said but it was years ago). After this she just steamed for like a minute (while I was trying to explain to her she misheard) and then got up and walked away. I told my buddy (who is great with women) that she will never talk to me again, and he agreed.

So just to be clear, I did not intentionally insult her... she just thought I did.

Now here is the important part... time passed before I next ran into her. This gave her time to think about me, steam about me in her head... basically think about me all the time.

Next time I ran into her, the "sexual tension" or whatever you guys call it was off the charts. So thick you could slice it with a knife. Needless to say she was a lot of fun after... animal passion. Personally I do not think she had ever been so hot for a guy in her life.

AND...

The interesting thing... her friends.... TOTALLY RESPECTED ME!! I'm not shitting you. She definitely told them about how I totally and completely insulted her... and yet these friends of hers, approved of me. (note: I'm sure they were not respecting me for insulting her... but for evoking the kind of attraction/response/emotions I did from her)

Now, in all fairness, she was attracted to me before I insulted her. I am not sure what happens if you are a jerk and the girl is not attracted to you already. I have limited experience with being a jerk, since it is not my normal "modus operandi"

This experience also makes me remember a time in my life (around the same time as the previous anecdote), where I would tell my buddy... "man I am the most honest person around, I never lie... yet all these girls are thinking I don't tell the truth. Which is weird... but even stranger is the fact that, despite thinking this, it does not diminish their interest in me one bit." So if anyone ever needed proof that girls are not logical creatures... here's another one to add to your list.

also, someone was writing above that being a jerk will get you more pussy than being a "nice guy" (pushover), but that's just because being a nice guy will get you almost no pussy... being a real man will get you more pussy than being a jerk.


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go to a good psychologist and work out the core problems you have when it comes to your self esteem and ego, (or as pua's would call 'inner game) and you will soon workout that the act you are putting on is merely a product to try and cover these problems up.

When you work on that you will soon realise you don't need pua you will be genuinely confident and happy. you can still be a rebel, its all just about being true and extremely confident in your core values. If you can truly look in the mirror and say that then you won't need to put the lame act on anymore. Having this knowledge also makes it so so sooo much easier dealing with those pua's whose ego's will have them believe they have stepped down from the heavens to socialise with us meare mortals lol.

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You are very lost.


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it's hard too swallow i know

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Save your complements for when you've won the set and isolated the target. Maybe if you neg a little too strongly you can save the set with a complement, but don't go in trying to be flattering or it's a sure-fire AFC/try-hard move.

Being alpha doesn't mean being a jerk or an asshole. Being alpha means you're communicating strength and confidence. I won't deny that there are some women who are genuinely interested in and attracted to jerks/assholes. They're probably subs who are sexually aroused by being with a very outwardly dominant man. True subs are a very small minority of women, so your chances of hitting one in the clubs is pretty small unless you're at a leather/fetish event (and then I'll guarantee that the majority of the women there will be beastly).

Pickup is a means to an end (getting the girl, having sex, starting a relationship, whatever) not an end unto itself. I'd only play at the jerk/asshole routine if you want to dig an enormous hole from which you need to use your PUA skills to climb out of. Check yourself, though - if you're doing this, then pickup has become the end unto itself and people can intuitively sense this.

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I think the idea of being asshole is not to actually be an asshole, but share some aspects of that classification. E.g. blunt, honest, ruthless etc.

Also it feels a lot more liberating to be yourself rather than a "nice guy", and far easier to get past bitch shields if you have that rough edge. Also, showing a little arrogance/asshole-ness shows you do have confidence, and aren't afraid to be yourself.


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Oookay. Let's see how I can word this.

Um, BE YOURSELF! If you're not an asshole, you're not an asshole. If you're not a jerk, you're not a jerk.

More often than not, if you have a good, POSITIVE ATTITUDE, you outshine a jerk. Seriously.

Guys kiss ass because they're not secure in their own skin. If you're having a good time outside, are you not cool? Who doesn't NOT want to have a good time?

Personally, I think the assholes and jerks are just that...assholes and jerks. You can be nice, but you need to be POSITIVE. From positivity, you can be confident, assertive, and fun to be around.

I will admit a problem that has damaged my "game" lately, and that is the very guys I seem to be around. They're all fucking vultures, and funny enough, since I always have a good time (A few beers, introduction, get to know your crowd), the girls never go with them, proven I stand up and push them aside (When you push a vulture aside, you protect the positive flow, and she likes that. If you're happy, she's horny).

Don't try to be a jerk, or an asshole. If you're POSITIVE, and don't let other bullshit get to you, you automatically give off "asshole" and "jerk" POSITIVE qualities. Assholes and jerks, IMO, are merely guys who had success early, and never felt the pangs of failure to know what negativity is.

Just my two cents though.


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so who here has actually studied psychology? Everyone seems to be making these bold pseudo-scientific statements without really knowing what they're talking about

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sadly, some of you guys seem to be trying too hard to be a "bad boy"

the question is legitimate.

heres what you need to do. its quite simple, really.

Be the shit. She is less than you are. you are cool, and she likes you.
smile a lot. the venue is yours


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