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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:55 pm 
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Heyy guys,
Direct Day Game and Dancefloor Game are the two areas of game i've focussed my attention on because i truly enjoy (and have success in) these.
So, since these are often two area of game men have ALOT of trouble in, does anyone have any concerns or questions regarding anything to do with these game types, be it mindset, how to follow up, how to open, etc. ?

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hey there!

it's good to have someone that is willing to share their experiences =D.

my question is how do you transition after doing a direct opener? like i would deliver my direct opener but then the conversation would get awkward because I don't know what to say or do. how would i go about building comfort and qualifying?

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hey there!

it's good to have someone that is willing to share their experiences =D.

my question is how do you transition after doing a direct opener? like i would deliver my direct opener but then the conversation would get awkward because I don't know what to say or do. how would i go about building comfort and qualifying?

cheers!
Hey Amogjon,

Thanks for your question mate!

I used to have the same problem, and in fact, i never got it properly answered. I ended up finding out from experience what to do and it's ridiculously simple.

Say your direct opener, and simply transition with "So what are you up to today".
I've heard afew Gurus doubt this line's effectiveness, but it is one of the most natural things to say.

So say your direct opener (out of interest, what do you use?) and let her react, and transition with this line, and let her respond with whatever she was doing. Usually she'll say "ohh nothing much, just ________" (maybe shoppping, maybe about to see a friend, etc.) I have never had any girl just answer with "not much/nothing".. she will pretty much always answer with something that will give you material to talk about.
So, she might say that she's out shopping... and you can start teasing her about her "lack of shopping bags".. and saying how much she sucks at shopping since she's barely holding any bags :P

Basically, just improvise about it, but this transition will give you some material to continue the convo with.

I'm all about natural game, and really just focussing on making it fun, teasing her, etc. without worrying about Qualification/negs/goodness knows what else the game has told us to do.

So just talk with her after that, and practise this and you will develop great conversational skills, and this convo including the fun/teasing, etc. will build the comfort with her that you need to close solidly.

Hope that helps man!

Thanks again for the question, keep them coming =)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:27 am 
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So say your direct opener (out of interest, what do you use?) and let her react, and transition with this line, and let her respond with whatever she was doing.
Hey Fr33stylez!

The direct opener i usually use is "hey i know that this is super random/forward of me but i saw you (whatever she is doing) and i thought u looked (some compliment) and i had to come and say hi for a second."

I can't remember where I got that one from. What do you think of it?

I always tried to put what are you up to somewhere. I'd usually try to joke about the situation after opening but usually doesn't go so well lol. I guess i keep overthinking about what I should be saying. Next time I'll keep it simple and use your transition right after the opener.

Another question, I hope you don't mind asking is how you went about being calm and comfortable in set. Sometimes when I'm in set i'll be calm and comfortable and other times I'll be really nervous, stuttering and repeating things i've already said. I didn't think girls could do that to me lol.

Thanks for your time


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So say your direct opener (out of interest, what do you use?) and let her react, and transition with this line, and let her respond with whatever she was doing.
Hey Fr33stylez!

The direct opener i usually use is "hey i know that this is super random/forward of me but i saw you (whatever she is doing) and i thought u looked (some compliment) and i had to come and say hi for a second."

I can't remember where I got that one from. What do you think of it?

I always tried to put what are you up to somewhere. I'd usually try to joke about the situation after opening but usually doesn't go so well lol. I guess i keep overthinking about what I should be saying. Next time I'll keep it simple and use your transition right after the opener.

Another question, I hope you don't mind asking is how you went about being calm and comfortable in set. Sometimes when I'm in set i'll be calm and comfortable and other times I'll be really nervous, stuttering and repeating things i've already said. I didn't think girls could do that to me lol.

Thanks for your time
Hey Amogjon,

That's a pretty good direct opener, i use something along the same lines (pretty much every set i open direct, i use a different variation of a direct opener, and i've pretty much found this to be amongst teh most effective --> "hey, i'm just on my way to meet a mate at the moment, and i know this is really random/may look really keen (if i ran after her lol, always works out well), but i thought you looked really cute, so i just HAD to say hi!"

So it seems ur joke about the situation doesnt go over too well, what sort of things would you be saying? Keep in mind, they might not drop to the floor laughing just yet cos they're probably still recovering from the shock of the situation :P

My mindset for direct isn't really focussed on me trying to impress them (which it seems you try to do so, and that's potentially why you feel abit nervous - i still get alil nervous though, especially when i open a girl that i truly tihnk i'll like) but what you gotta tihnk is that if the direct doesnt hit or she doesnt respond well to you, just be thankful because this whole approach acts a filter for you - If you two were gonna be good together, she would've responded well and it would've worked out.. if she doesnt respond well, who cares, NEXT!

Also, your mood will fluctuate, as will your confidence and your level of approach anxiety day to day, and even hour to hour, so expect this.
BUT to keep your negative thoughts at bay, something that certainly keeps my inner game solid is the comment and the belief that "Everyday i'm getting better". BELIEVE that, cos you are - think about it, it's impossible to be getting worse as each day goes by cos you obtain new knowledge through practise about what to do and what not to do, and as such, everyday you're improving.

Just relax, talk SLOWLY and PAUSE when talking to your set - this will communicate confidence and will buy you more time to think about what you wanna say :P
Just keep it relaxed and low pressure, and just remember, this random approach X doesnt matter/have any repercussions on you at all if u fail.
Always have fun and the rest will come (that's generally my night game/dancefloor game mindset, but it's applicable in the day time) you could have the best routine in the world (i hate routines lol) or whatever, but if u dont have fun or dont make it fun for the girl, you'll fail. So, just have fun with your approaches, have fun learning about male-female dynamics - See yourself like i see myself - i see myself as Neo in the matrix, and all the guys that walk past me are those ppl that havnt been unplugged from the matrix yet. We, as pua's in training have had our eyes opened to the way the world (and women) really work, so enjoy this, its a game, have fun, Damn it!

=P

I hope SOME of that helped, i know i rambled, but i hope you can find some useful bits somewhere in there :P

Regards,
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:40 am 
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Hey Amogjon,

That's a pretty good direct opener, i use something along the same lines (pretty much every set i open direct, i use a different variation of a direct opener, and i've pretty much found this to be amongst teh most effective --> "hey, i'm just on my way to meet a mate at the moment, and i know this is really random/may look really keen (if i ran after her lol, always works out well), but i thought you looked really cute, so i just HAD to say hi!"

So it seems ur joke about the situation doesnt go over too well, what sort of things would you be saying? Keep in mind, they might not drop to the floor laughing just yet cos they're probably still recovering from the shock of the situation :P

My mindset for direct isn't really focussed on me trying to impress them (which it seems you try to do so, and that's potentially why you feel abit nervous - i still get alil nervous though, especially when i open a girl that i truly tihnk i'll like) but what you gotta tihnk is that if the direct doesnt hit or she doesnt respond well to you, just be thankful because this whole approach acts a filter for you - If you two were gonna be good together, she would've responded well and it would've worked out.. if she doesnt respond well, who cares, NEXT!

Also, your mood will fluctuate, as will your confidence and your level of approach anxiety day to day, and even hour to hour, so expect this.
BUT to keep your negative thoughts at bay, something that certainly keeps my inner game solid is the comment and the belief that "Everyday i'm getting better". BELIEVE that, cos you are - think about it, it's impossible to be getting worse as each day goes by cos you obtain new knowledge through practise about what to do and what not to do, and as such, everyday you're improving.

Just relax, talk SLOWLY and PAUSE when talking to your set - this will communicate confidence and will buy you more time to think about what you wanna say :P
Just keep it relaxed and low pressure, and just remember, this random approach X doesnt matter/have any repercussions on you at all if u fail.
Always have fun and the rest will come (that's generally my night game/dancefloor game mindset, but it's applicable in the day time) you could have the best routine in the world (i hate routines lol) or whatever, but if u dont have fun or dont make it fun for the girl, you'll fail. So, just have fun with your approaches, have fun learning about male-female dynamics - See yourself like i see myself - i see myself as Neo in the matrix, and all the guys that walk past me are those ppl that havnt been unplugged from the matrix yet. We, as pua's in training have had our eyes opened to the way the world (and women) really work, so enjoy this, its a game, have fun, Damn it!

=P

I hope SOME of that helped, i know i rambled, but i hope you can find some useful bits somewhere in there :P

Regards,
Fr33stylez
Yea I guess I do give the girls too much value before I approach, I mean I don't even know anything about them after all. I still have some limiting beliefs with women which fks me up. Girls are scary rarrrrrr!

I'm keen to do some day game tomorrow with this stuff in mind =D.

Cheers for the help Fr33stylez! I'll post some more questions when they come up.


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When in day-game, i tend to use opinion openers. is that a problem? but direct openers just seem to end in a dead thread. :S


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Yea I guess I do give the girls too much value before I approach, I mean I don't even know anything about them after all. I still have some limiting beliefs with women which fks me up. Girls are scary rarrrrrr!

I'm keen to do some day game tomorrow with this stuff in mind =D.

Cheers for the help Fr33stylez! I'll post some more questions when they come up.
No problem dude, keep them coming - it's what i'm here for =)

Now, to RockyD, Opinion Openers i reckon is alright, i mean ultimately as long as you get to where you wanna be (example: if you're just looking to get laid, who cares which way you do it, so long as you succeed :P)

I personally prefer more direct and overt approaches cos it's more ME, and it's more MAN to do that haha
But do whatever you feel comfortable with and whatever works for you man.
Each to their own =P

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hey, i want to ask you if escalating fast will work during the day. I am really into gunwitch and 60 years of challenge

thanks in advance


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hey, i want to ask you if escalating fast will work during the day. I am really into gunwitch and 60 years of challenge

thanks in advance
By escalating quickly do you mean sexually, and including alot of kino, etc.?

It can be done, not easy, that sort of stuff is most effective during night game.
My personal opinion on that is that i really won't work alot of the time because it wouldn't suit the SPAM the Day Game is presenting. Day Game is more focussed on conversation, chilled/laid back, comfort, rapport, humour, teasing (push/pull), light-medium levels of kino.
So if you go in there all hot and heavy with sexual innuendos, etc. it may completely ruin your set because she's not expecting an approach in the day time, let alone a sexual encounter.
But my mindset is to basically try everything and see what works, so try it, maybe it'll work for YOU.
Good luck man =)

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