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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:02 am 
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First of all is Natural Game the same as Inner Game?

I am having alot of inner game problems and I thought maybe if I study more of natural game, I will improve my insecurities and become a real Alpha Male.

I want to be able to pickup girls Naturally, I dont like using lines.
I have studied DD and Mystery and I dont think their methods work for me. Anyways, when I approach girls, I usualy use what eer comes to mind. I have never opend a set with a pickupline or canned opener.. i just say hey whatsup im [name].

But I do like the ideas of keeping back straight as iff theres an ice cube on ur back.
not putting hands in pockets.

are those part of natural game aswell?
I also need help in my speech because I studder alot and I cant always get what im trying to say out properly. Like Im better at writing when expressing then at talking.

So what material should I look at to get me started and on the right track?


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First of all is Natural Game the same as Inner Game?

I am having alot of inner game problems and I thought maybe if I study more of natural game, I will improve my insecurities and become a real Alpha Male.

I want to be able to pickup girls Naturally, I dont like using lines.
I have studied DD and Mystery and I dont think their methods work for me. Anyways, when I approach girls, I usualy use what eer comes to mind. I have never opend a set with a pickupline or canned opener.. i just say hey whatsup im [name].

But I do like the ideas of keeping back straight as iff theres an ice cube on ur back.
not putting hands in pockets.

are those part of natural game aswell?
I also need help in my speech because I studder alot and I cant always get what im trying to say out properly. Like Im better at writing when expressing then at talking.

So what material should I look at to get me started and on the right track?
Hey man,
Seems like you're still abit new to all this stuff - and that's fine, but yeah, i have afew words of wisdom to pass on (i've been in the game for alil bit over a year now)
Started out with reading up on material, etc. but i never read all of MM or anything else cos i'm like you, i dislike routines, etc. i prefer natural game.
Which brings me to my first point,
Natural game is not the same as inner game.

to make this all clearer, UNNATURAL game is using routines, lines, gambits, and things you've learnt and have just spat out shit you sat at home learning.

Natural game is using none of these (maybe an opening line or two) but it's mainly focussed on improvising, having fun, and attracting the girl with your natural personality. Since i disliked routines so much, i went straight to Natural Game, and i much prefer this since the girl is attracted to ME, and not some routine i read on a forum liek this..

And just so you're clear on inner game: Inner Game involves your confidence, self-image, self-esteem, etc.
Outer game involves your lines, your looks, your vibe, basically everything else that is communicated abit more obviously to a girl. Whereby inner game is subtle cues that girls pick up from you, outer game is there for the world to see pretty easily.

If you want to improve your insecurities, work on your inner game, but even better go out and approach and get some practise and exposure under your belt. Depends on what these insecurities are though, but if it's looks, dw, for women attraction is not an on/off switch based on looks, rather it's based on your confidence, vibe, fun-ness, etc.

I liek how you're really into natural game, but i dont know how effective "hey whatsup?" can be. I mean, i can work, it all depends how you deliver it, but a more effective way to open with a line but still be communicating what you think and being natural would be to use a direct approach. But this depends on the context or setting in which you're meeting women - at a house party or something similar, direct is not the way you wanna go - "Hey what's up" would work there - but for the street and day game Direct works much better.

and LOL at the 'ice cube' comment - This is all part of body language/posture and you should internalize all this stuff, it'll make u look and feel great. head up, shoulders back (not PUSHED back though), chest puffed out slightly (not like a cocky bastard), arms swinging freely and rythmically by your sides as you walk, and slow all your movements down and look happy and fun.
You're right about the pocket comment btw, generally try to stay away from the pockets, especially if you're planning on meeting women.

You mentioned something about your speech and how you stutter quite a bit - I have a wingman who has a similar problem, and i recommend to u what i told him, and that is to SLOW, DOWN, THE, TALKING... pause between sentences, words, and just really slow your speech down to when it seems awkwardly slow and tehn you'll get used to speaking slowly, and u'll also learn which speed is a good slow speed to be talking at.
You say you're not good at expressing yourself with words, it seems you're treating the whole gaming experience pretty seriously - Who cares if you cant, jsut make the interaction fun and dont worry - just keep practising!

In terms of where to loook for material, i personally dont recommend much material, it's mroe valuable to find things out for urself through experience, so get out there and learn!..

I hope this helped you to some degree mate - I've actually written a 30+ page guide for direct natural street game which should be released in the coming months - it's an accumulation of allll my knowledge that i learnt the hard way from my first year in the game, gaming intensely almost everyday!

Kind Regards,

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One thing i would do when it comes to body language is watch the tv show called the pick up artist. Not for the routines, not for the gimmicks, but for the body language only. When i first saw the show i actually learnt a lot by seeing how they did it, learning some tips and tricks.


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thanks alot guys It really helps alot. I am looking forward for you book!
great tips!


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