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Im not a pua, I like reading, thinking in and using this and all, but it isnt a lifestyle for me
I don't think there's a problem if Im at a party just chilling and talking with friends and not feeling like approaching N girls... in fact, thats normally how it is, what worries me is when Im there and there's always one or two girls that look good and also interesting and I'd like to get to know... If I get into a conversation with this girl with no bitch shields or creepyness I know she'll like my personality, talking with me and would feel confortable enough to have a beer with me some other day

what I want for me is to have various girlfriends, Im pretty laid back and independent, so I wouldn't stay with someone if things were getting 'heavy', I'd rather have short relationships and leave them with no harm and keeping the girls as good friends and with an open door for future hookups

so, my issue is not confidence, inner game, style, personality or being an interesting person

I just want to be able to go to the girl that I really liked that night and truthfully and honestly get to know her in a natural way

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I really like the "hi" kind of openers, and Ive been able to start nice with them, by doing this.. Ive got good feedback in terms of enthusiasm but sometimes Ill just lose the 'click' of the flow and will loose her interest fast as Im not able to transition correctly into an interesting conversation, could you friends give me the correct direction?

I must say I was dumb enough to forget the simple "I saw you xxx and you look like an interesting person" etc and after some frustration I kinda slowed down because I lost confidence in doing this move precisely

Wow dude,

Looks like you really know what you want when it comes to women!

I feel you don't need to transition after opening. Let me explain why. When you use indirect game, you conceal your true intentions and emotions from a girl, and hence you need to transition into showing her your true intentions later on after she gives you IOI's.

In natural game however, you don't need to transition since your intentions are clear from the moment you approach a girl. In fact, since this is the case, why would you call it a "game" since its a way of being. Attracting girls just becomes a side effect of who you are and the way you walk though the world.

The following articles explain beautifully the point I'm trying to make: http://www.attractioninstitute.org/why- ... ng-for-you and http://www.attractioninstitute.org/miss ... hing-women

I think this is the part of the picture that I was missing and you are too. Hope you find the answers you are looking for in this.

sorry for the delay, thanks for the reply

what I mean by this transition is how should you work yourself to make the conversation interesting after going to talk directly to the lady

because when you do this move you're in charge of the conversation in this firsts moments..
in this approach you're in a different position.. like you said, its kind like there's not gaming
still, you want(at least I do) a flowing conversation, that has rythm and gets both vibing to it
Im not exactly talking about gaming the girl here, its really about the talking

So from what I gather, you have no problems oppening, but rather making interesting conversation?


It really has alot to do with the situation. After you open, you need something to talk about. Maybe mention a nearby bar/restaurant and ask if she's been there. If not, then you've got a date (presuming that she's into you). As far as keeping a conversation going, treat the entire situation as if it is just you and one of your friends. Put absolutely no pressure on yourself and you will find that conversation starters can come to you out of nowhere. These conversation starters have alot to do with the situatuation. "So where are you from? Really, one of my best friends is from there, I heard that in ______ (city) there's alot of ........ you should take me there blah blah blah". Just take very simple openers, and run with them.

I've also seen some great posts on actually putting the wprk of the conversation on the woman. I'll try to find some of those and link you to them.