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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:48 am 
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Hey is there any books about this or any guys who teach this just wondering, cuz i believe being the natural is way better and way more kick ass cuz its you, you can credit ur "win" by gettin the chick not canned openers. not saying those dont work, this is just what i believe


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:03 am 
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Plenty of dudes teach natural game now. I'm partial to RSD m'self, but there's also Gunwitch, Juggler, David D... take your pick, really.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:43 pm 
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Just to add my own two cents here:

If you want to understand how a natural works, you need to realize that a natural is nothing more than someone who made his/her UNIQUE set of circumstances work (and work very well) to seduce the opposite sex.

BUT..a natural is NOT someone who DOESN'T use routines, that's misunderstanding the whole thing...it's not routine based game vs. natural game, it's routines are one of the TOOLS of naturals. Lots of people claim they like Natural Game because it's routine-free, has no canned openers, etc. but the truth is: a natural uses very specific tools (lines, routines, locations and so on) that are UNIQUE to his or her game. These UNIQUE tools make up their own style of seducing, while the routines, openers etc. in the seduction community (I won't call any names because it's irrelevant) are MASS PRODUCTION routines: every uses 'em or wants to use them.

The difference between someone who goes for mass production routines and a natural's routines..is that a natural can CREATE new ones right then and there, reinvent himself, while mass production can't. It's what made the natural successfull in the first place: making his UNIQUE circumstances work.

In short: EVERYBODY needs routines, and they do NOT suck. Take it from a guy who learned game the natural way for 3 years and who discovered the community by accident in the winter of 07 - ME.

Just to give you a better idea of how "natural routines" (or whatever you like to call 'em) of men out there who haven't even heard of the community work:

- A bouncer of a club has a certain leverage: he decides who gets in, who stays and who needs to get out..which means he can throw out people he doesn't like for no reason (if he wants to), OR let certain people cut in line and ask something for it in return. In other words: his routine would be letting women approach HIM (because they want to get in), tease and challenge them about how they're not going in (and be picky if he wants to), being a gentleman who holds up their coat when they leave (as he closes the deal), and letting them cut in line the next time they visit in return for a kiss, a number, a date, pretty much whatever the hell he wants. Once he has explored all of the options being a bouncer provides him with - he perfects his options to get the best possible outcome the highest number of times (= making his circumstances work for him) and voila..it becomes a routine the gives him the highest probability of having sex tonight

- I once met this 59-year old, retired fisherman who had a medium sized fishing boat all to himself. Every year there would be slow periods though: periods in which he wouldn't catch a lot of fish and it cost more to go out on the sea and catch some than the profit he made doing so..because of the maintenance cost of his boat, the fuel, taxes, etc. He soon found that taking tourists on tours of the beautiful harbor and nearby sights was much more profitable, so he started taking women on tours. It wasn't long before he found out that the more vivid and exciting stories of the harbor, the sights and his dangerous life at sea he told and the more he teased the women about their boring lives..the more attraction he would create. Then he started faking motor breakdown in the middle of open water, proposed making the most of it by either getting a tan (and rubbing her full of oil) or getting undressed to go skinny dipping..no matter which one, he almost always had sex on his tours. Again: making his unique circumstances work for him thanks to various routines.

But here's the great thing about naturals by blood (people who got raised making the msot of their unique circumstances vs. people who learned it thanks to a product)... if you would have given the bouncer or the fisherman another job, or picked them up and threw them into ANOTHER environment..would they fail? Absolutely NOT..

Because their game doesn't make them, they make their game..and it was their open-mindedness, their creativity and sexual energy that allowed them to meet and date women in set of circumstances A..and they'll make things work just as well in set of circumstances B, or C, or D..

And you simply CAN'T beat their experience: that fisherman did his tour routine for 30 years in a row until he could take any woman on a tour (no matter what age) and have sex, even two women at once..but throw hem in another situation and he uses the 30 years of experience with women and might need to get used to things at first, but I've seen it happen and trust me..they win from someone who only learned how to do things any day.

So LEARN from as much naturals as you possibly can - just like I did, and look at me now :wink:


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