It was 2009. Met a girl on Facebook and she thought I was cute. In her photos she was a hb7. I never took her out, although she did think I was good looking. I had a feeling that if I wanted her I could have her.

Now its 2011, and I've seen her in person. She's easily a hb9. When I saw her in person it was at my job getting a gym membership. She had a boyfriend then, but now is single and transferring to a college hours from where I live, so a relationship is pointless. But I need to get over this situation for the future. After I got my certification in personal training, she's been wanting me to train her. She has given me a lot of IOI's but has done the same to all the meatheads in the gym. Recently there has been a guy that walks her out to her car, and I think he has kissed her to. I finally said I could work out with her and she said she was really exited and couldn't wait. So we worked out, and even though we flirted, she did the same with a few other guys at the gym when I was with her, in between sets. She is a female player. I don't want to be taken advantage of for training her, I know for sure she finds me attractive as she does many other guys. But what should I do to stand out and make her chase me? Should I take her to a nearby gym(same company) to workout since she wouldn't know anyone? Should I continue training her? (I am not going out of my way to train her, I set the times, and she agrees to them).

Thanks guys!

P.S. Reason for the title is because a lot girls will seem nice and interested, then play ur ass to get what they want.

Don't take her to another gym. She will know that you feel threatened by her flirting, and it doesn't matter, she can easily flirt with any guy being a HB9 and all.

As for her playing you, maybe thats what she already did. Maybe she just wanted some personal lessons for free, but that's doubtful.

I think your best bet is to just go for it. Invite her to go clubbing with you and some friends or something. If she says no, fuck it, on to the next one.

If thats not the path for you then next time you're training her, neg her. "You're getting in much better shape, soon you MIGHT just be good enough for me "

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I think I'll be using that line next time.. Lol

As far as taking her out to a club, I think she'd just use me to get in, and then go off and talk to a bunch of guys. But we'll see, she's only like 20 and is in that stage where she thinks she runs things, and thinks she can have her way. Still immature. Any other suggestions on how to tame this beast?

She is def a player. Let's look at it from her perspective for a sec. She WAS tied down, and now she is free. She is getting attention from lots of decent/hot guys and she even has a few loose ends she never got to tie up (you). She is an uncaged bird and she is fluttering around until she finds a new branch to roost on.

Will it be yours? or will it be some other chumps? It's up to you to determine that.

Best advice for a girl like that is to forget you have a history. Game her like she is a complete stranger. If it starts working she will probably say things like "omg, what's gotten into you" or "you've really changed, I like the new you".

if its not working, she will just start ignoring you more because you are no longer an option for anything but friendzone. Expect invites to help her pick out shoes and underwear for her next hookup (which won't be you).

Treat her like the HB7 she was back then. The same shit should still work because girls who WERE less hot always have really bad self esteem problems. They are like Kid Icarus flying high on the false wings of ego fed by other guys attention.

She is still an HB7, she is just trapped in an HB9 package. So game her hard core and fuck the shit out of her like you would have any other HB7 you just met.

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I didn't realize she was so young, a female wing would work nicely here as girls that immature want what they can't have and you want to play the jealous card. Having a female friend around could easily make you much more wanted.

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So I trained her again today. I'd say it went alot smoother. It was leg day so I got to touch a lot if you know what I'm saying. She told me she wanted to lose some fat from her legs, and ass. Which in all honestly didnt look like she had any. But I had her squeeze her butt and then I pinched it to see how much fat there was. Nice ass.. Anyways I told her it was alright, then laughed, and then I said there was a little fat, but we can get it off in time. We did some backpedaling defense back football drills, did them together, side by side. I did abs and then I asked:

Me: How old are you?
Her: 20
Me: Ohh... Nevermind
Her: For what?
Me: Well...
Her: ?
Me: To go to a bar
Her: Oh i got a fake ID
Me: Nice, my buddy is a door guy at Club A, and invited me to go. I'm going with some friends, you should come by with ur girls.
Her: Yeah, I like going to Club B, and Club C. Club C is one of my favorites.
Me: Well if you and ur girls are downtown you should come by.
Her: Yeah


So I ended up winning, then losing a bet that she could beat me in the back-peddle drill so I told her I'd buy her a smoothie after workout. We go and meet up at the place, look around the store, talk and flirt a little. The we go outside and she puts her arm around me and says, "Well thanks for the smoothie! Now you cant leave me hanging!"
So I laughed and put my arm around her, walked to her car and talked a bit. She told me if she should workout different parts of her body a day like me and as she named each part(shoulders, chest, and arms) she touched that muscle group. Then I said yeah she should, then hit her with "I usually charge girls $5 everytime they touch me. Looks like ima have to run a tab on you."
She laughed and said "Yeah you better get that started".

So do you think if I get her to come out saturday to the club, I'll be ahead of the other meat head shes talked to? And how can I ask her to get her to come? Anything else I should do besides over thinking this? lol

Thanks guys!

Did you get her number? That would be your biggest mistake if you didn't, though I am assuming you already have it, since you have been training together. Other than that, you did it perfectly.

Do you have a place you can pre-game the bar? Your best bet is to have a pre-game (at yours, or a friends) and invite her and her friends come.

That way theres a place to come back to that shes been at (she'll feel safe coming back), your friends can try to get with her friends (thats a plus), you can be friendly with one of her friends (builds jealousy), its on your 'turf' (she knows noone there but you and her friends so she'll have to use you as a social crutch), and if shes going somewhere else that night you can convince her to come with you guys instead.

Good luck!

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Description looks good. I think you might be trying from a bit too "nice" an angle. Depends on your pre-existing rapport. As stated I'd say its 80% solid / 20% too nice. Her poking you and stuff could be flirting or it could be friendzoning, it's hard to tell.

Best advice at this point is don't over think it. Assume success. Next time you're out at ClubA, just txt her "hey, I'm at Club A, meet me out" and leave it at that. if she pulls the old "well we're out at Club B, you should come" just ignore it - it's a shit test.

Give it exactly two tries then drop it and enjoy yourself sarging other chicks. When she walks in, don't drop what you're doing to welcome her, just keep on whatever you were doing when she walks in, especially you are sarging. Just give her an acknowldgement and finish your convo gracefully. A good IOI is if she approaches you despite snubing her a little. Otherwise dissappear from sight for a bit (bathroom or whatever) then surprise her from behind with some "cool guy banther" to who ever she is with.

One of my fav warm openers for target + friends is to just walk up and start introducing yourself to her friends first, handshake direct. Builds value and shows confidence, that you aren't going to be her purse dog for the night.

From there, like I said, just assume a score and chill the fuck out and enjoy the vibe. Just keep escalating with her on the side while you focus on her friends and enjoy yourself. If her friends enjoy your Alphaness she will view that as fuckability test passed. Best scenario is if one of her friends hits on you too. Don't ignore it, and don't buy into it either. That's the ultimate display of value in that situation.

When escalation seems to be progressing well seperate her and then push to private place away. her's or your's doesn't matter. Don't be too forward and don't be too easily dismissed. Just keep it casual but just shy of obvious what you want. From there you should just follow all the rest of the PUA schemes to close the deal.

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I do have her number, and Ill give that a shot. Ill post again with the results, thanks guys!

Ok so Saturday night didnt work for either of us. It was her sisters college graduation, and my buddies were out of town. BUT I did manage to talk to a buddy of mine who knows her, and his girl friend is really good friends with the girl I like. So for the next workout on thursday, I'm gonna escalate the physical touch as always, and at the end I'm gonna ask her on a double date with my friend and his girl since she already knows them. So she should be comfortable right? And this chick also tends to be one of the flirty types, any tips on dealing with flirty girls? thx!

The double date idea sounds perfect.

As for flirty girls, just be yourself, flirt back. As a natural I have never had a problem with them.. so I can't help. Sorry.

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And one more question to add to my last post, what if I had a few people I know from the gym come say hi to me while I'm training her and as they walk off they can say, "Yall make a cute couple."

Good opportunity to neg her. I would say while training specifically work on push pull with kino escalation. Keep it light so you don't get fired, but the more you can budge the line near her sensative areas the more tension you will build in her to want more. Don't make it deliberate and do make it just like you would if you were tossing her around in the sack - some soft, some firm.

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What would be a good neg in this situation? as well as a push pull example for the situation while working out? THX!

Right as the person says that, you should start laughing, and that should be enough.

If you can't fake a real laugh then some things you could say are:

"Wow, I hope (s)he didn't get your hopes up"
"I wonder what drugs hes on"
"What does he see that I don't? I can't see you to me, but maybe I just haven't got to know outside of the gym." (she'll ask you out right here hopefully)

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