Hey guys,

I'm a total newb at this so I need your help. I just got out of a LTR and have been completely closed off to any PUA behavior for a damn long time. *EDIT : wait, i've never been in the game...

So far, as long as I have a wing, I have no issues getting through the first night, opening, maintaining attention, dancing, getting the girl close to me, etc. Always get FB, sometimes number... but after that, I'm too much of a wuss to contact the girl...

After the first night, how the hell do I initiate a conversation or get the girl to do something with me?

If I want to see her, where do I invite her? How do I bring it up? How long do I wait before contacting the girl?

You know, the more I read shit on this website the more I get intimidated by picking up girls...


Thanks for help boys.


Oh, and I'm going crazy, I just met this girl at a club last week, met up with her again the next day, and I keep thinking about her like an idiot... All I have is her FB... will PM, but wtf should I say?

uh oh...sounds like 1itis...

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Sarge the entire Bay Area- from SF to SJ

People who say "dont look for love, let love find you..." dont have any f*ckin' game.

as a start...what info do we know about her? what does she like to do? what has she NOT done? where HASNT she been?

somewhere along the line, i like to probe with these kinds of questions and gather as much info as i can, so i can set myself up later on for future meets. once i get an idea of what she hasnt done, i can set up a plan and sell the activities in a playful manner, making her feel deprived that she hasnt been to these places or experienced these activities. increasing her interest, and making her realize what shes been missing out on.

during the meet, i usually like to keep it 1 on 1 so youre both focused on each other. also like to include multiple venues so you have more experiences to share and refer to later on, with the last venue close to your home. now, towards the end of the date, it just depends on how aggressive youd like to be with the girl; but regardless, dont forget to seed a good reason to head back to your place later on that night...even if youre not trying to f-close just yet...id suggest to get her to your place anyways so she gets comfortable going there. showing that shes there and you dont pull the trigger, will actually make her think, oh cool...hes not even trying to just hit it, which sets you up in a better position later on and allow you to get her to your place easier.

if you havent gotten this kind of info at this point, start casually asking about it and probe a bit, wait a couple days then pitch your plan.

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Sarge the entire Bay Area- from SF to SJ

People who say "dont look for love, let love find you..." dont have any f*ckin' game.

lol @ 1itis > it's actually not all that bad but eh... just usually doesn't happen..


Alright, even if I manage to get all of this info, I'm totally braindead towards ideas of what to do...

Are there any safe spots to go to regardless of what you know about the girl? truth is, I barely know anything... will have to work on that...


*EDIT* Oh... big thing here, this particular girl lives like 45 minutes from where I am... not the worst I've done but it seriously limits what I can do, and I doubt im in any situation to get her to come to me right now...

If you have no problems number closing, then get a lot of numbers, and try a lot of different things.

When I get numbers, I just mess around with texting. I just send out stupid text msg when I am bored. And it usually turns into a all day converasation being silly with very little comfort building. Is funny because girls be throwing subtle IOI with me wanting me to ask them out but I dont. I ignore and keep going.

Then finally, I make plans. I send a text out during the evening "hey doing xxxxxx tonight, come hang out."