Okay! So I've been a member of the forum for a while now, and one recurring theme/sticking point I continually observe is that everyone seems to be curious as to when they're being shit tested. Sometimes you aren't sure, you really have no way to know if your being shit tested, or if the woman is interested in what she's asking.

So what is a shit/congruence test?

A shit test is any time someone (even a man) will try to put YOU into a role that IS NOT who you really are.

Here's some examples:

HB: "You probably just want to sleep with me."
HB: "You seem like a player."
HB: "Is that a pick up line?"

In this situation, the woman is trying to force you into a role where your trying to sleep with her, she's also assuming she's higher value than you.

Or say your in a club and your showing some people something, and some guy comes along and says...

AMOG: "Dude, show me a trick, man that looks super cool, your cool man."

So in this instance he's trying to tool on you, and put you into a role where your qualifying yourself to him.



A shit test also can take place when when someone asks something of you that you know they wouldn't do for you.

Person/HB: "Hey, will you go and get me something?"


So what are some ways to deal with this? I know you've all experienced failing these test, and you can see that the interaction changes for the worst when this happens. So I have a couple ways to get through this.

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01. Give the person what they want, but show no emotional reaction to what they're saying.

Example: AMOG: "Hey dude! Show me what your showing them, c'mon!"
PUA: "Okay....come here." (This is done emotionlessly)

So instead of him coming in and you qualifying to him, he looks overexcited, and really just comes off to the crowd as obnoxious, and what he's doing is clear to the other members of the interaction.

02. Treat whatever they said with a sarcastic and unreactive response.

HB: "I hate people from *your town*".
PUA: "Lol oooh Okay." (Sarcastic tone then new topic)

It's important not to react. That's what they're looking for, just to see if they can get you to react and play into the role they're assuming you will.

03. Use whatever the person said to you to reinforce a judgment you made about them previously.

So like, lets say you told a girl she was trouble in the interaction earlier

HB: "Your an asshole."
PUA: "Wow, I was totally right. You are trouble!"

This shows that they're playing into the frame YOU set, as opposed to you falling into her "asshole" frame.

04. Respond to whatever ridiculous statement they made with one equally ridiculous.

HB: "I bet you just go around trying to hit on every girl here."
PUA: "Yeah this is a fun place, I like the bands they have."

You can almost use this to answer the question that you wish they'd asked. Sometimes any response is bad.

05. Ignore the statement completely

This works really well, and it's personally my 2nd favorite. This works well on both men and women and is incredibly powerful. It conveys that your high value, that your used to being treated a certain way and that whatever they're saying is just ridiculous to you. It will also cause AMOGs and assholes to get aggravated.

06. Make them repeat themselves

This one's a lot of fun. When someone tries to get you to fall into a role or take a shit test, just act like you didn't here them.

HB: "I bet you like to talk dirty."
PUA: "What?"
HB *Repeat*

Works awesome on AMOGs as well.

07. Misunderstanding.

This ones awesome. You can basically take a statement someone made, and make it seem like you thought whoever gave you the test was doing something else. So instead of responding to the test you act like-

-They tried to compliment you
-They tried to impress you
-They tried to entertain you
-They tried to hit on you
-They want your approval

You don't want to do this a lot, it's to be used sparingly, or else you seem like your overcompensating.


The worst way to respond to any shit test is logically. If you respond by trying to make sense of it, or try to argue, then you play into the frame. It's important to be sure that whatever method you use it's done without giving the tester a reaction, and not giving them a serious response, because they're not being serious with you, they don't deserve a serious reaction.

-Jace

great post, learned a few new responses thank you

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Ok, so a girl gives you shit about your height. Says something along the lines of "you're so short." OR "I don't go out with guys shorter than me."

(sarcasm)
"Yeah it's ok, I know you've been seeing a psychiatrist about wearing flat shoes around guys like me. I know it's a serious issue but you're not going to cry are you? I don't know if I have any tissues for you." (patting pockets, chest etc pretending to be looking for tissues).

I'd probably reply with, yeah? How's the weather up there?

Probably not the most proper response as I am just learning as well, that's just what I'd say as cocky funny

great post!

If a girl asks if you if you are mad at her, is it a shit test? And what to say to play it off?

I've noticed that this not only works for just meeting women, but say if you were starting to see a women or your gaining feelings for a certain women, she might put you threw a certain number of tests to see how you will react,

A example is, your meeting up with a girl and she says at the last minute, "oh hey is it alright if my friend comes along too, shes really bored" most guys will ark up about this and get all shity because they want to spend time with the women themselves, they will still allow the other women to come, but they will act all shitty and not themselves, women can notice these things and will be judging you on these things, i think the best thing you could do is say "oh yeh totally, thats a good idea, it might be arkward just me and you" make sure you say that last part sarcastically!!! and when you do meet the women be the same fun person you always are with her, make sure to pay heaps of attention to her friend and make sure she feels comfortable, because they will be judging you when they get home and her friend will be a major contributor to when she decides if your worth seeing again.

so keep in mind, whatever obstacles get throw in your way, don't loose your cool, make the best out of every situation.

It can be, you can be funny with it, never sincere.

"Yeah, you only want me for my body!!"
"All you want is sex! How am I supposed to feel?"

I suppose that it could certainly be a test, remember, if she's putting you into a role that isn't you, then it's a test (unless you were fighting about something previously or you'd have a reason to be upset with her).

This is absolute gold! Thanks Jace.