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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:35 pm 
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Apologies up front if this is a noob question - its my first post. I'm new to the art and I gotta start somewhere. My level of game is pretty much where I'm familiar with NLP since way back and some basic PUA principles. Besides that, I'm usually confident enough to get myself a girlfriend when I need one.
But here's the situation: I met this girl and we had a half-hour non-stop conversation right off the bat. We had another the next day and this time she greeted me with all kisses and hugs. I learnt that she's single and I dont doubt that we made a connection. I've got all the right evidence so far. Our rapport is such that I even considered just straight out asking her out for a drink.... but something stinks AFC about that. She's on the cusp of accepting an offer - I'm sure - but how should I make it?
I attracted her by playing a bit of a smart straight-A's kind of guy, and i need to move things along whilst preserving this 'character'. I dont want to use any insidious tactics that involves making shit up or tricking her into some situation, cos she's too smart for that. She's older than me and i've seen her bounce off guys who act too suave or 'young bucks'. We connected because we're both pretty clever and a bit nerdy. I need to send the hint that the interest is mutual, but without seeming over-keen. Its delicate, cos im sure she's on the cusp of submitting, if only i dont blow it. Any ideas to secure a 'first date'? Please don't use too much jargon in your replies - im still learning!


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after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future.

the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her.

so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting.

dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game.

Hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude ;-)


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I even considered just straight out asking her out for a drink.... but something stinks AFC about that
There is NOTHING "AFC" about telling a girl to meet you for a drink. If she likes you, she knows what's up. You don't have to say "date," and you certainly don't have to pretend you're not trying to hit on her. It's ok!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:25 pm 
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Aaah, see, I wasn't sure about whether this is the moment to appear 'aloof and coveted' or if at some point it becomes safe to just shelve the tactics and admit you like her back. I go for 30-something women and I find that appearing to be the 'life of the party' can be detrimental. Ambition and drive and stability etc. seem to carry more weight at that age. I prefer being open/honest, rather than inflating my social calendar (although I'm not shy, I prefer my own company most times anyway). I'm familiar with mickeyjackson's reply from Strauss's Rules Of. It makes perfect sense, only I feel like 'it's just not me'. But then perhaps that's a counterproductive way of thinking. Like I say, im new to this. Running game sometimes make me feel pressured to capitalise on every encounter and then I blow it. Ryan Oceros, you make a good point. Thanks for the advice guys, I feel duly welcomed!


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:37 pm 
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OK, here's my thoughts. I think that the problem you and a lot of other guys have is when you talk to a girl you set a precedence that you're not sexual. Somewhere along the line guys have gotten the idea that we need to hide our attraction to girls and slowly work our way in there, then nervously say "umm, would you like to go to dinner some time"

One of my favorite teachings is from David Wygant. He says when you are meeting girls you should convey a message to them through body language and speech that says "I'm a man, you're a woman, and i WANT you" Now, I'm not saying to actually say that! It would be creepy. I'm just saying don't be afraid to up the sexual tension and when showing her something touch the back of her arm. When opening the door for her and she walks past you, put 2 or 3 fingers on the small of her back.

Once you set the frame of your relationship that you're a sexual guy and you are into her everything else comes easy, the hardest part is making the transition to the new frame.


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