Well I'm new to this forum and even though I know a few of the things one should do and not, I still managed to make some mistakes post first date! Need some advice on what to do or has the opportunity come and gone?

I met a girl online and we went out for our first date last Sunday. Everything on the date appeared to have gone very well. Made a good connection, strong eye contact, no sign from her that she wasn't interested.

However, after the date I made some big mistakes that one should not have made. I texted her about 5 min after the date was over and told her I had a good time and I enjoyed meeting her. She followed that up basically saying the same thing and even said we should get together again soon. I sent one more text agreeing with her and that was it.

Well over the next few days I continued to text her, but I feel that I may have texted too much or talked too much about hanging out again in the future. I asked for a second date about 2 days after our first and she agreed to it, but I basically didn't give her the opportunity to miss me or think about me, because I made it a point to initiate the contact all the time. Well since that time that I asked her out on a second date her replies have been short one word responses and I'm sensing from her that she is quickly losing interest, if not already gone.

So when I picked up on her vibe, I quickly started searching the web for advice and found out all the things I had done wrong and how I possibly ruined my chances with this girl. So I didn't talk to her at all on Friday and after she sent me a quick "Merry Christmas" text on Saturday I only replied with one text wishing her the same and since Christmas day I haven't texted or spoken to her at all. I'm hoping that my withdrawal would help undo some of the damage I may have caused and wouldn't give her the impression that I'm needy and insecure.

I assumed that she would have expected me to try and contact her yesterday, (the day that we were supposed to have made plans for out 2nd date) so instead I didn't contact her at all. So my question is, where do I go from here? Should I text or continue to freeze her out for another day or so?

I am no pro, but I would say freeze her until you have something that you are doing either way. It has to be fun and exciting. Then invite her. it does not have to be few days, if you have something tomorrow or the next day just let her know she should roll with. that is just my thought on it though. Someone with more experience should have more confident advice.

I am in between AFC and PUA. But first off you have one-itis it seems. I try to always have multiple girls I am dating/interested in. It gives me more confidence. My mantra nowadays is "I will be a PUA when instead of pretending not to care, I REALLY truly DON'T CARE". This girl I have been texting showed a lot of interest and then didn't return my last text a few days ago. I really like her, but I keep going out, making approaches, if she gets back to me fine, if not, well I am starting to really not care. I want to be able to exude the fact that I don't care when I talk to girls. Not that I am an evil person. Just that I will not be one bit dissappointed no matter what they do, because they are SO easily replaceable. I am also starting to realize that getting good at game can be just as exciting as sex. Knowing that you will never again have to compromise to keep a relationship going. That you can walk out whenever you want to. I've never had that power before, been too afraid. But now I am free.

Short answer is, I would ignore her. Her merry christmas text to me sounds like "Merry christmas, my FRIEND. I am sending this to all my FRIENDS. Do you understand". Just ignore her, move on, if she ever gets back to you act like you are very valuable and she must work hard to win you back, but be playful about it.

Yeah I think I was suffering from one-itis... Probably like so many guys on here, you meet that 9 or 10 and it becomes like a challenge/goal to snag those girls.

However, the freeze out worked... I ignored her on Sunday and Monday all day. While I was on a date with another girl, I received a text from her asking if I had moved into my new house yet. I didn't text her back until almost 2 hours after her first text because I was still on my date. I kept it very nonchalant and ended the texting conversation after bout 4-5 texts.

Well yesterday I didn't text her until almost 10pm and when I did, again I kept it laid back by asking her how work was going (she works nights). She said she was bored and asked how I was doing. I told her I had just left my friends bar and was headed home, but was going to stop for a late night bite to eat. Knowing she was off at 10 I asked if she cared to join me, but she politely declined saying she doesn't like to eat that late before bed.

Jokingly I told her that's why you stay up a little bit later watching reruns of In Living Color, but also said no worries and told her to have a good night. She commented about never having watched that show back in the 90's, (we are both in our early 30's btw) so I told her she would have to watch a couple episodes first and then let me know when she was finished and then MAYBE we could hangout again, but not before then. lol

She replied by saying "that's okay I think I'll pass..." not sure how to take that reply, I neg'ed her by saying she was stubborn and she said "lol...that i am..." well by now our conversation had lasted almost an hour, because we were only texting every 10-15 min so with that I said it was getting late and I was heading to bed. she said ok and have a good night.

my question now is, where do i go from here? should i freeze her out again for a another day or two and then ask her to hangout this weekend or should I continue to just keep this texting thing going? I don't want to freeze her out to the point that she feels that I'm just not interested and yet I don't want to have our communication limited to just texts either...

What should I do?

with the really hot girls I think you have to be outrageous. that she had texted you out of the blue while you were on the date says she is willing to be the one to initiate. I would not have chased her the next day by texting her. Let her chase you. but you kind of blew that already I guess. I would either ignore her, and stop thinking you need to chase her. Or, possibly send a mental bomb like "you seem repressed, don't know how to have fun anymore huh?" I would have said something like that after the in living color comment. Or you can get all gay and start stalking about seductive reasoning type stuff about how she is afraid of one night stands but doesn't want a boyfriend, you understand, lots of girls you are with have that problem. The idea is to be the dominant one. Women like it when the guy is in charge and has the stronger frame. You might even tell her that you just want to be fuck buddies and show her a wild time in bed can she handle that, if not asta la vista.

Anyhow, I'm not really a pua. But I've been practicing some and I think you have to be outside the box. Whatever a AFC would do, do differently. And remember, she is the guinea pig for your experiment.

I would wait a week or two. If she hasn't texted you then I would send a mental bomb. Also, I am trying to text less. I want to start getting girls on the phone because I am alpha don't have time for that disrepectful game bullshit all the time and I think girls respect guys less who text them like a fucking japanese schoolgirl. I would rather get better at phone game so that I can be sexy on the phone and dominate her into meeting me up for sex. This chick told me about how you can break glow sticks and splatter them on the wall for effect. And also black lights and face paint are cool. I want to ask girls to do this sort of shit, I think they might be turned on by the adventure of it. But I haven't field tested it except on the girl who suggested it. Well, we haven't actually done it but we keep making plans for it and I can tell its turning her on.

Anyhow, give the impression that you are having wild fun sex with other girls and she is missing out but all she has to do is call or text but no bullshit games. then make it your reality. If nothing else, network so that you have fun parties to go to so she can be missing out on going to those with you.

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When pretending not to care what she thinks becomes really not caring what any of them think...that day I will be a PUA.

You we're too AFC man im sorry the date was the breaking point for her, and on top of that the text afterwards is too needy marriage stuff,

you treat a bitch like a bitch not your girlfriend after a first date, and the five minutes ewwwww

I had a good time and all that stuff conveys too much interest on your part which is a *PEWWWW CRASH* on her switches, and the texting even more doesnt help.

To help you fix your situation with a woman, do not text her immediately or even for like 2 days, turn up the cockiness, show that the date wasn't special to you at all, be busy, do other things, invest your time in something else or even other women, and like all things that cant have what they want, she will start to fight for you, once that happens you've won the battle period

Keep it up, The game is a small journey with a beautiful road, so walk slow, learn fast.

Fender43