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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:05 pm 
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Hey everybody, happened to stumble across this site and I have found it very useful for pursuing new women. However there is one girl that has been driving me nuts, I will try to keep it to the point but any insight you all may have would be very helpful to me:
A little about me: I am a born and bred New Yorker, been living in Cali for the past 6 months, have had decent success with the women here , some are just turned off by my aggressive nature. It should be noted that I am not a "player", nor do I have "game". I stray away from pickup lines and most of my interest is generated from telling jokes or just being witty and comical, which leads the girls to just feeling comfortable enough to go out on a limb and strike a convo with me..
Now about the girl;
So I went out for my birthday with a friend and a group of her friends that I never met before. We did some ice skating then hit up the local bar for some drinks. One of the friends seemed really awesome and I did my best to play it cool, mostly since she was talking to one guy with us, who turned out to be her best friends boyfriend and they were just close friends from childhood. Throughout the night I was getting constant laughs from the group and they all love my accent, asking me to say certain words just to hear how we say it back home. After an hour or so at the bar, she turns to me and just starts shooting the breeze. I throw some test questions out there to see what kind of chemistry we may have and it turns out she plays the guitar just like me, loves to shoot pool just like me, and is very sarcastic and witty, just like me...Within 5 minutes, she's already leaning in, touching my arm, and basically just ignoring everyone else unless she was asked a question or needed a drink.
We go outside for a smoke and right away she says " Will you teach me how to play the guitar? I know chords but I need help!" I tell her I would love to and I give her my number.
Her : Awesome, but just so you know, I'm really shy and even if i like you I will still have a hard time getting the nerve to call you, so you better take my number
Me : Absolutely , but I may be really aggressive and call you tomorrow
Her : You better! I really want to hang out

IF YOU ARE STILL READING, THANK YOU, BUT HERE IS WHERE IT GETS CLOUDY FOR ME

Her : Oh and just so you know, I will not fuck you tomorrow when we hang out.
Me : :::Laughs::: No worries, how about 2 days from now?
She laughed hard and gave me a nice smile

Next Day I text her and quickly I get a response, " At the DMV waiting, may not be able to hang tonight but if not definitely tomorrow" . I'm cool with that since she left an opening for the next night, and as planned we hung out, shot some pool, drank our asses off, and wound up at the IHOP until 4 am. She kept on saying how much fun this is, we gotta do it as much as possible, and she was even setting up things to do in the near future for us, all looked good right?

I let 2 days go by and I text her to grab some drinks again, which she is all about , but an hour before we are supposed to meet, she says her roomate and her boyfriend just got in and they want to double date , key word " date " , so i tell her i'm up for anything as long as she's there. This double date turned into her other 2 roommates just randomly showing up at the bar we are at and joining the party. Even though I don't know any of these people, I was picking my spots with the jokes, getting my laughs and keeping her interested ( or so i thought?). We went to 3 different places that night , and every time she kept saving the seat right next to her for me, and while she wasn't tuning everybody out like the prior time, it still had the vibe that we were clicking. Now this is where I need the help people, its only 12 30 am and this dude says he doesn't feel good and is offering to pay for a cab for everyone to go back home, and since they all live together, they all decide to go. I take the cab ride back with them since i live a few blocks away, and i got a big hug on the way out, BUT since this was our second time out, i was really hoping to make a move at some point, but in a group setting it just didn't work that way.

The next day , I text to see how she is doing with everything, and she says "great, had so much fun the other night, we must play pool soon!!". I left it at that, thinking i'm in good shape but now I am thinking this is where I messed up. I have waited 2 days to see if she wants to go out, No go , " I got plans with my girl, but soon! " . I let 4 days go by to generate some time for her to miss me , " Oh i totally would but I am busy tonight, next time!! " THEN i decide to just forget about her for a bit altogether and see if she contacts me, which has worked in the past. OH BUT SHES SHY! Wait about a day or so, shoot her a text, no reply. To her credit , my text was pretty bad, something along the lines of " Hey beautiful, had alot of fun the other night, can't wait to do it again" . Another 2 days , text to go out, and her response is " Oh i have to work, but soon!!" Since then i sent one more text that wasn't responded to, and since today is sunday and i know she gets off early, I am thinking about taking ONE MORE shot at it and if I get no response or a no , I'm done with her.
I know that is alot to read, but this is a unique case for me. Anytime I get half of the results I did early on, it has always led to hooking up, but again, she told me straight up how shy she is so here is my question for you all ;

If I am going to text her in a few minutes to see if she wants to go out tonight, what should I say as my last attempt? Any help is appreciated


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:38 pm 
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Damn Blayze!!

Great reporting-interesting post.

Im a former New Yorker so something in common.

You should've laid this girl from the 1st.meet!

Plus,I dont get where she's shy.

What's happening is that she's now blowing you off because she's given you 3 chance to lay her,but you are not pulling the friggin' trigger!!

She's saying to herself and her friends,either you're gay or you're not in the know;basically have no skills.

This girl wanted you to f-close her but you played it too cool.

You're supposed to be super aggressive.

What happened!!?

You havent mentioned anything about KINO(touching her)nor flirting.

Maybe too many jokes(lol).

This' almost a lost cause.

She gave you the shot 3 times,but you didnt act.

Learn from this.

Better off having a girl tell you to slow down,you're too aggressive,than to tell you to speed up,which she would NEVER tell you.

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So glad I posted that, you told me exactly what I needed to hear and what none of my friends want to tell me! Lets see if I can elaborate on a few things;

-I didn't get the vibe that she was shy, but the way she told me, it just seemed like she would be less inclined to make the first move to hang out

- The night we met I initially started the random touching of her arm when talking or brushing my hand along her back when i would walk by. Second time same thing, which in hindsight, my best bet was to make a move in the bar since it was very empty.

- Can you really say i blew 3 chances to F-close her? ( On a side note, i need to research what all of this means , F-close? pretty sure i got that one though ). Night one doesn't count, and she said straight up she wasn't gonna get down the next day either. I see your point though.

-I may not be a pimp but I get my fair share of action. I always like to flirt/tease em on date 1, very rarely go for it , and it usually leads to a quick relationship. Most of my success comes from date 2 , but with the whole group SPAM that developed, it seemed difficult to remove her from the pack. Again, i'm sure you all got skills on that, hence why i'm here

SO, how do I approach this last attempt to get her to come out tonight?
- Send a text that ignores the fact that she has been distant and just say
" Hey, want to get some drinks tonight? "
Or do I attempt some teasing about how shy she is and transition that into getting together?

From one New Yorker to another, thanks! On a side note, these cali chicks are ALOT more difficult to read than NY women. Look forward to your input


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Thanks for clarifying things.

Always ignore when a girl says stuff like they dont have sex on the 1st date.

It's total BS!

The vibe and the guy's skill set is what disctate sex on the 1st or 2nd. night.

She just said that so you can believe she's not a slut.

I dont know if it's too late now on getting her out tonight but your would-be text is a total no-no!

Definitely ignore the fact that she's been distant,but dont ask if she wanna get drinks tonight.

Be confident and act as though you dont give a shit and say,"Join me for drinsk tonight;I'll be at ***'s bar.

Never ask,it's sign of weakness.So tell her to join you.

It's also general PU rule to invite her out via phone call-not text.

Women always dismiss text msg's as not serious.

A phone call would be better.

Definitely remember to act as though you dont care if she join you.

If she doesnt meet up,know that it's essential game over for you.

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well done K-loc the only thing i have is that she didnt say she doesnt fuck on the first date to convey to him that shes not a slut i think its more to herself then anything

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@Iowa-Lol,definitely;how could I miss that?

She's trying to convince herself that she's not a slut.

All girls say it,and most men fall for it and miss golden opportunity.

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Ok, so update :

I took one last crack it, and said I'm gonna be down at the local bar shooting pool, you should come join me! Within a minute I got a reply :

" Sooo sorry I haven't been available, been very sick, but I didn't forget about you and I will make it up to you soon"

OK, so I'm kinda going to have to believe this, considering EVERYONE in our group of friends/roommates has been sick over the past month, including myself. I get the feeling she really just didn't want to shoot me down and make me lose interest, which was also mentioned from a friend of hers last night at the bar. It's Tuesday and we have plans to drink tonight, we shall see what happens...

On a side note, thanks for the advice and observations, glad I found this site, it will be helpful in the future i'm sure....I am going to chalk this girl up as a uncommon occurance!


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