Ok, so i've been practicing my game. I got some canned openers down and they are working but... Where i'm really lacking is mid game.

I usually just start talking about really boring things like where are you from and what do you do.

I was watching VH1's the pick up artist and when the conversation trailed off during the set Mystery was saying "cmon! we drilled so much material in his head, he has so many things to talk about just do it!"

Now, what the hell is this "material" he's talking about. I also read the venusian arts handbook and it had no mention of canned material or interesting topics to talk about. It just said to get in a talkative mood by talking talking talking.

But what do you talk about? What are some interesting things to talk. Things that wont make a girl bored....

Also, wouldn't it be kinda weird to a girl if your conversation dies off and then all of the sudden your talking about some random canned material that has nothing to do with anything?

Help!

My basic rule is: Once you run out of shit to say its time to close.

Think about it... its better to just close and say something like: "Well, I'm already late to meet my friends... lets grab coffee soon. Whats your number?" than to keep talking and destroy the opportunity with awkwardness.

What I personally do for Mid-game is try to get info about the girl that I can use later. I ask questions to keep her talking.. like: "So do you go out a lot?" or "What do you do for fun?" or "Did you grow up in this area?"

All of these questions can lead to finding out useful info about her that keeps the conversation flowing.


But the point is to have fun. After opening.. either the girl will be friendly, boring or bitchy. If she is friendly.. it should be easy to have a nice chat. If she is a clam then just walk away.. or close early (if you think its worth it).

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This is THE basic rule... but keep yourself to a time constraint... say, 6-10 mins with her, topps. Utilizing small talk is a last resort and may kill/strangle your chances.

Take conversation topics from your surroundings! To help you to do this in quick time... a good practice is impromptu creative writing. Go out and sit at the park and write/answer questions about what you see. You should be able to find something funny/witty in any situation after a little time.

Think about things YOU are into, then find out if she's into those things. Try to find some common ground. Think of your first conversation as intercourse, rather than cuddling. Right now you're trying to cuddle. You want it to be nice and last a while. You should get in, close, and get out.

This also leads me to believe that you've qualified the girl too soon, and haven't got her interested. If she was interested, she'd be chasing you or try talking herself up a bit. Since you've already qualified her too soon, you're trying to force a connection that isn't there. Try seeking out the connection rather than forcing it.

To exercise this, think of ten things that will qualify a woman for you, things you like or don't like. I'm a movie nerd, and I like Led Zeppelin. I try to zero in on girls who are more likely to enjoy the same things as I do, for the purpose of a connection. I see a hot babe with peace sign earings and I am on that shit!

Make her qualify for you. Trying to impress her with your ability to hold conversation with hurt you more often than not. Get in. Close. Get out.

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awesome posts guys, really helps.
I've got some new stuff to try out on Friday.

If anyone else has some good tips/exercises keep posting. The more info the better!

a friend of mine was talking to me the other day about a sales technique he had been taught at work to qualify sales prospects and build rapport...

I naturally saw the simple and very effective translation to game.... who wouldnt ?

basically when you ask one (open ended) question, you should try and come up with 3 questions to branch out off that, and then another 3 off that and so on.

For example

You : Q: "Have you lived around here for long ?"

HB : A: "I moved here about 18 months ago"

3 branch questions off that: for example
- Q: "Where are you from" ?
- Q: "Did you move here for work" ?
- Q: "Did you move here with family" ?

HB answers : A : " I grew up in Texas, my family is from there, and i moved her because i got a promotion in my company"

This then gives you 3 more branches to move from

for example

Q: Are you a Cowboys fan ?
Q: What do you in your company
Q: or something else cool about texas.... you guys get the drift...

It has worked for me...

see how y'all go

bb