I am learning and doing PUA stuff for about 10 months now. But even with cocky funny, teasing, flirting and everything girls still see me only as a friend. now am really depressed..what made me write this post is what happened today..i had met a girl couple of times..talked to her for about 10 mins each time..today was talking to her in facebook..she suddenly asks 'are u hitting on me?'..i was surprised and asked her 'what u feel'? she replied 'am sorry but i just wanna be friends'. I mean hey i didnt spend a week with her without escalating..she LJBF me even before i could run game..and even if i run game, am still friends with other girls..not anything more..am confused and hopeless now..what else can I do?why do girls always see me in a non sexual manner?is it my body language, vibe, personality or what?And i am really attractive and friends find me really funny. this makes me even more sad.. am i doomed forever?

run threw it in ur head again cuz im not sure what the problem can be.. if your being cocky funny and not coming off as reactive or needy i dont see why they wouldnt have attraction..?

yea, i had the same problem too. but hey, don't give a shit to it. i even say to them "hey i just wanna be friends, okay?" before they could say it to me lol. i think the key is, don't give shit bout LJBF. if u're frustrated bout LJBF, then u won't be able to get out of LJBF zone.

remember, anything coming out from women's mouth doesn't always seems that way. by saying "LJBF" doesn't literally mean that they only wanna be a friend. what women say isn't always what you think. heh... women...

and yea, maybe u can learn more bout kino and body language. they help

anyway, a tip:
if she asks: "are u hitting on me?" reply it by asking the same question "are YOU hitting on me?"

she's giving you a CT that way. and u should not give a straight answer, instead just CT her back and that's it.

Yeh if you're being cocky funny and kino escalating you're doing that right however maybe try change your image to be more sexual... dress like a man who is sexually active not like a boy who is frigid...

not sure if that helps or not but give it a go

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A few things that will give you a almost guarantee one way ticket to the friend zone..that you should never do on a girl you want to do something sexual with are these:

Giving her advice on her life...your her potential fuck buddy not her therapist, dont give her advice on anything important just sympathize with her and talk about something that has happened to you thats similar

Helping her with school work, or anything like that...your not her best friend or someone she can count on for your help, you are someone thats trying to mess around with her sexually, stay away from these things cuz they will get you labled as a nice guy and a good friend.

Other then those big things, try to be more sexual and esculate sexual tension and build it...if she says LJBF then you could say something like "im not friends with girls that i find attractive, it just dosent work out, i have to have some kind of relationship thats not limited to a little brother relationship" this will give her the clear message that you want her to be more then friends or to fuck off and stop wasting your time...iv never tried it since iv never had a girl say directly to me LJBF but its worth a try

Damn that sucks but i would like if you can write a field report of a recent sarge so we can hopefully find a solution .. So far all i can ask is if your getting enough IOIs but honestly write a field report and text me a message posting a link to it

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the way i see it you can handle it like this..

build her investment in you by getting her really close and attached to you on that friendship level then detach yourself from her suddenly without warning so it switches the chase dynamic & then in like a month get in touch with her again and reframe (research it if your not sure what that means, its important) & use more attraction game and less comfort game... and use the friend thing to disqualify yourself & build her attraction even more...

like.. You get her to give you an IOI

for example:

Her: I missed you..
You: liar You just want me for my body.. your not gonna get me in bed that easy

Here shes either gonna laugh or qualify herself depending on the level of attraction you have going on. You want her to qualify herself so try and build the attraction and make sure theres a lil sexual tension before you do this.

Her: (Random Qualifier) "I could have you if I wanted you" "oh you wish" "You want me in your bed"
You: Are you hitting on me? (with a Oh isint this Ironic delivery but a playful frame)

role reversal


Think of it like scary movie 2.. when she said I think we should just be friends.. and he spends the whole movie treating her like she was one of the guys lmao.. like that.. just verbally dont beat her up like in the movie obviously lol..

if you act sensitive with her ur getting sucked into her frame.. Be a Dick.. Suck her into Your reality... & make her believe it.

Hi guys,

Interesting point about getting the girl attached & heavily invested on the friendship level, then "detaching yourself" from the situation.

My question is : Would this work if you had friendship, some attraction & rapport with a girl who has a serious long-term boyfriend? Or is it just not worth bothering attempting to move from friendship to seduction?

Thanks fellas!

You aren't cocky enough perhaps? It sounds to me like you aren't presenting a challenge. Give it up with this one for a while if not ejecting altogether (what I'd do). Also, the response to her suddenly puffing out the quills of "what u feel?" tells me you aren't really absorbing this stuff properly for someone studying as long as you've been. Have a friend go out with you next time you're sarging to tell you what you look like from a distance. Combine that with your own recollection for a field report and we might be able to get to the bottom of this.

As for the dude who just posted, it sort of works but only if you're patient and go on a tear of beating guts in the meantime. She'll be reticent to drop her dude for you, but you're definitely on deck should the relationship end on its own momentum. Forget it and go after one of the other 2,999,999,999 vaginas out there.

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Mate, you must have been doing something wrong prior to 'gaming' her in those 10 minutes. Just ignore what she says and take it as a shit test but generally it means you are doing something wrong.

It could be the fact that your not escalating enough and going direct. Stop the indirect bullshit and go direct! It will get you places faster .. Be honest and direct, take what you want..

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