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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:22 pm 
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so this chick that is in my circle of friends but not that close of friends, sent me a text today saying "not working today". so i told her that i just got off class and she should come over to my appt. so she has never been over but we've hung out at parties and stuff. she came over and my brains flew out the window. we played cod, then watched a movie but i didnt make a move. i was all awkard, but like the convo wasnt awkard. like i just didnt go for it. my bro said obviously she is DTF if she came over to chill midday. but i just didnt go for it. what are the signs? and what should i have done? i figure that after we start making out it will peace easy.

worst part was i didnt even like do anything at the end when she left. like after the movie shes like well i told my friend id chill and iam like ok welli gotta do some homework later. i was so blind that i though she just wanted to chill. until what my bro told me. i wish i could just say: wanna fuck? but yea. can i recover from this?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:54 pm 
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i am by no means a pua, but IMO unless shes already subconsiously LJBF-ed you this can work in your advantage..

say you were over your house and still building kino and playing cod (

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:02 pm 
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sry kinda new, but can you just explain what you just said?


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Translation: "I am by no means a pick up artist, however, In my opinion. Unless she has already subconsiously "Freind zoned" you (Ever heard the line "Lets just be freinds" or " I have a boyfreind" or " I dont like you in that way") You can work this to your advantage.

Lets say she was over at your house, and you both were playing cod, you can tease her about playing bad, and then "Kino" (Derrived from the word kinistetics {I def didnt spell that right} It means to touch a girl. Not nessesarily in a sexual way)

Eg. You are really terrible at this you know that?
Her: Shut up!
You: Come ere, lemme show you how to play this right
*Put your arm around her, hold the controler for her, whatever*

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:34 pm 
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thanks there was some of that going on. and well everyone is going to the club tonight including her so i dunno if i should go. and what should i do there. just dance and grind i guess? the club sucks for that shit tho


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:12 pm 
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Don't focus on your dance moves for tonight. Dancing with her might put you farther into the friend-zone unless you create a sexual frame first.

Your next step is to create a sexual frame, and this will be done through your conversation with her.

Although clubs are loud, they give us a perfect excuse to be very close to a woman while we speak to them.

Because you've already spent time comfort-building, you should have no problem with kino escalating. Look at the bottom of the forum's home page for Gambler's videos. They have great examples for kino escalation. Use these a lot as you talk to her. Start with the small kinos and gradually make them more sexual in nature.

Use simple games to begin kino escalation: thumb war, palm reading, teach her a "new" handshake, etc.

If she wears any rings on her fingers, comment on what finger she wears them on. They show people what her personality is like. Make some cold reads on her:

THUMB = Poseidon, representing individuality
INDEX = Zeus, representing dominance, power, and energy
MIDDLE = Dionysus, representing irreverence, rebelliousness, and decadence
RING = Aphrodite, representing love and romance
PINKY = Ares, representing conflict

Google 'Strawberry Fields Routine' and use that.


These should do the trick to let her know that you mean business and refuse to enter the friend zone. Let me know how it goes.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:00 pm 
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thanks ill try it tonight. but i think games in a club isnt right. but yea. i get it


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:19 pm 
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Just kiss her god damnit!!!

^This is seriously the best advice you can get, although I'm not sure if you've blown your shot. If she comes over again, you had better make a move in the first 20 minutes, or you won't get a third shot.


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