im new at this and i decided to go to practice at a shopping mall i dont know why but when i entered to the shops only the hired guns who was sale womens and were hb7 and hb8 but it was a good idea to practice cause the sales women must be polite with you anyway i went a little shop i used as a opener "im trying buy a gif to my cousin (female) would you help me?" which was bullshit they were very polite but we were talking just about my cousin at the end i buyed a girls t-shirt and after i payed for the t-shirt i was able to chat her up about everything

the problem is that buying the t-shirt wasnt part of the plan how can you hit up a sales women without buying her anything?

Just don't roll with an opener that makes it seem like you're going to buy something. You can talk to sales people without having to make them thing you're gonna buy something.

yep sure is.. remember just because shes working doesnt mean she doesnt feel attraction hmm it myt be easier to buy something though coz she has to talk to you that way.. otherwise direct is your best bet.. now direct is fucking hard but if you walk into the shop with your target quickly grab her attention and say something like "hey yeah i know this isnt conventional, but i was walking past and i knew id kick myself if i didnt come in and say hi.." direct game is definately not my thing but yeah if your that way inclined then use that gift.. coz not many people can do that..

i did this same thing. if you just walk into the store and start looking at some stuff like 5 to 10 feet away from her looking like your trying to find something, she will come up to you and ask if you need help..... its always better to get her to approach you so it seems even more like your not gaming her. In my experience this works out pretty well and after that its up to you to make it happen. If you want to, you can create a time constraint. I know it would help me with actually getting the number. Just bring up that your meeting friends or some bs, and that you have to go, but that you enjoyed talking to her and that you guys should hang out some time.

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FAIL PROOF PICK UP LINE: excuse my, im sorry to bother you but my father beats me, can i have your number.

Haha... I chat up store girls and don't buy anything, even when I AM looking for an item!

It's easy - when I'm shopping I'm looking to get opinions, so that's always the frame I set right from the start. And I'm still talking about buying, not hitting on girls

I end up going to a variety of shops, talking to a variety of people, and not buying a single thing till I'm happy. I'll say things like "This one's pretty awesome - I'm gonna keep it in mind and keep looking, I may come back."

if she already knows or even believes that i wont gonna buy anything im sure she will leave me to attend somebody else im not a brad pitt or a matthew mcconaughey who womens will chase right away

im so f**ing boring even i started tell her histories about me that happened months ago like if it was just a few days ago and still she doesnt looks like she gives a damn

what the h** should i say to make her think "hmmm this guy is "special" i want to know him better"

what should you reply if she ask: "are you gonna buy something?"

You're doing it wrong. You basically are doing the exact opposite of what I just described.

could you give me a example of a good routine? this is what i did and didnt worked:

josh: *looking at women's clothes*
saleswomen: *start to looking at me*
josh: *i smile* im not gay this is for my cousin her birthday is today
saleswomen: i didnt say anything *smiling*
josh: *telling a bs history about her being too selective and made me return a t-shirt just because she didnt like it*
john: her body its kinda like yours would you try it? *first she didnt wanted to but after 5 mins i convinced her*(was a stupid move cause she did it and that made me buy the t-shirt)

the rest is blah blah blah what does she likes, i dont know, im not sure, what do you think about this, im not sure, etc.... and attempts to raise my dhv by telling her histories about me having fun

also i chicken out and didnt asked for her number

I think your first line was a bit DLV. I understood that you were trying to sound funny and different but it might have come off as defending yourself against a girl thinking that you are gay. You can read it from her response.

Next time, you can try an opinion opener. Tell her that you are looking for a present for your sister, etc and ask her opinion on that. You could also try something for your own and ask her if it looks good on you or not. Depending on her answer, you can start teasing her about her taste of men, flirting with customers, anything random.