If the target already shows you ioi’s is negging completely unnecessary?

If she only show ioi's not, thats just the beginning of the game. This means she's attracted to you SO FAR...

I think the only situation where negging is unnecessary is when you already have a clearly HV in her eyes. So when in her "mind" your value is already higher than her own.

50% of the time you think that negging is necessary, it is not.

Negs should only be used when you really, really need them.

I know that negs are fun and great and gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside. Lets think about why they do. All newbies love negs because:

Women has always had control over you and this is your chance to take it back. Read get back at them for all the other girls who have made you feel bad.

Negs are a way to fight for dominance. If you can be dominant without negging, thats much better, and works much better too.

People always overneg, a girl isnt that strong really, shes just like anyone. If she throws up a bitchshield you may need to neg but most bitchshields are just like 5 cm high fences, you just walk right over them.

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good reply

I agree 100%. I actually don't really get a warm and fuzzy feeling throwing negs, unless the girl's bitchshield especially strong, or she's kind of trying to emasculate you. So I like to avoid them unless necessary. I also think some guys don't get that a neg is really supposed to be a subtle thing and not something to bludgeon her with...

I can agree with what I have seen above.

However, negs are great for accomplishing certain goals that I am trying to reach.

I almost NEVER use a neg in a 2 set or 3 set, there really is no point unless they are being extremely bitchy.

I ALWAYS use the neg for 4 sets or more, ESPECIALLY if a guy is in the set. Its not about blowing away her bitchiness, it's about showing the other ppl in the group that you are not interested in her, stopping yourself from being a potential threat.

The "potential threat" factor doesnt seem to be there in smaller sets because it really is more of a personal conversation then a group conversation. I like to use negs around guys especially because my main target is the hottest girl there, which is typically the guy's target too, he's just an AFC.

So while I understand where your coming from, but I like negs in big sets, especially if I can kinoescalate while negging. It makes the woman so confused as to your intentions she begins to want you.

What does everyone think "negging" means anyways, out of curiosity?

I don't neg as far as I know...I don't purposely put girls down.

I do:

* call them out for everything

* bust their massive balls

* send out false disqualifiers (MOST important)

IMNHO, there's nothing more lethal for attraction then telling/conveying to a girl you don't want her/she can't have you.

"...not my type..."

"...we're not gonna get along..."

"...too bad you're not rich..."

One of my favorite things to do is to have a discussion about what things girls and guys find unattractive in the opposite sex (anchoring/associating those qualities with OTHER GUYS of course, thus implying you're the opposite), and then when you bait her into asking you what you find unattractive, you seamlessly wink, "Well, for starters, girl who INSERT UNIQUE FACT/QUALITY ABOUT HER SPECIFICALLY".

this is exactly what i do and in my opinion works 99% of the time.

face it guys girls want to be in control,but they allways awnt what they cant have.set her up get some IOI then BACK OFF!..

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Whats up with the whole "put girls down" thing?
Negging is TEASING! Funny and playful.

Negging has nothing to do with insulting someone.

Negging is a way to DHV. No Chump would dare teasing/making fun of a really hot girl. But a real man does!

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Vino, vedi, vici.
I drank some wine, I saw her, I conquered