Hey, I've been browsing this forum for a couple of weeks now and thought I'd see if I could get any good advice about this girl I like who I work with.

Basically, I've started a new job through a friend and there's this gorgeous girl who works there, he is really good friends with him too. He's one of my best mates, but he could never get her in a millon years and apart from being friends nothing could ever happen.

Immediately we had a connection and began flirting/texting/smoking together at work and outside of work etc. A couple of weeks ago at a work party we kissed and ended up in bed, however she was too drunk to do anything. So, we just spent the morning together spooning. The next night at a different party, I passed out and she climbed in bed with me again in the morning and the same thing happened. She's not the sort of girl to just sleep with a guy, so I was surprised this happened once let alone twice.

There's two huge obstacles in my way, one she has an ex-boyfriend, who doesn't seem to be going anywhere. They were together for a couple of years and he seems quite possessive. They're also going away on holiday together too, as friends, which is confusing. She's told me she would never get back with him, but the other night at a club he turned up and I saw her kissing him whilst I was having a cigarette (I also think she noticed me as they left to go back into the club.)

The other obstacle is that my friend is really against us doing anything, because he is such good friends with both of us. We snuck off to the movies about a month ago and when he found out about it, he was livid. He thinks us going any further is the worst thing in the world, which is why I haven't told him about all the other things that has happened, she doesn't want to tell him either. He seems to have a huge influence on what she does in anycase. This is also complicated by the fact everyone we work with keeps commenting on our "connection."

She didn't text me back after the night at the club after texting me first thing in the morning, I think it may have had something to do with a drunken text I sent her saying she looked beautiful that evening, or maybe it was the me seeing her kiss her ex incident. I really don't know what to do, as we seem to be playing games with each other now. I've gone for the freeze out and I'm a week and a half into it. I think things are just so confusing that freezing her out seems the best option until I know what's going on and to let her know that whilst I do like her, I do have other options available to me and don't really want my head scrambled like it is right now.

What do you think?

I do really like her and could potentially see us in a relationship some day. She is my type and the kiss was very good. I will also be leaving this job quite soon.

Thanks PUA, I've learnt so much from you guys already.

Ok you are like the 6th guy who has looked into the future and seen himself together with some bimbo. Can you focus please. I am sorry if I am annoyed. It is not you. It is because everyone has the same problem. They sit around imagining that the girl is something she is not. Listen man I hate to break this to you but you need to learn from your mistakes. You fucked up twice. When you sleep next to a drunk girl you have sex with her. Thats what you do. Period. There is no oh shes a good girl, she woudn't want that, or she has a boyfriend like the last guy told me. You fuck her. This is what you do:
You cuddle with her. You start to kis the back of her neck. Then the side of her neck. You kiss it sexually moving up and down and all around. You play with her earlobe. You kiss her shoulder. This takes 15-20 minutes. Then you turn her over on her back and get on top of her. Grind your croch in between her thighs. Kiss her neck some more. Softly and slowly. You slowly rub your lips over hers passing by like a passing airplain. You are not going for the kiss just yet. You are just passing by playing and teasing her. Look in her eyes, then go in for the kisss. Keep her on her toes by kissing then pulling away and making her come to you. Do this for an hour and her pussy will be so wet that you will think you are floating in a river of milk. Then you grab her hand and put it on your pants button, and have her unbutton them. She will probablydo this on her own, but if she is timid then grab her hand slowly and softly after an hour. Be gentle and non needy. Be persistant, but not agressive. You will sleep with a drunk girl if you keep this up. Just make her feel good. Make it sensual.

I imagine that she probably told you some line before coming to bed with you that made you believe she wasn't going to sleep with you. Like oh we aren't going to do anything, or we are just friends. Listen man! women just say that so they don't feel like a slut. They don't mean it. They just say that so you can fuck them and they won't feel bad about it. You see if you agree to be with them without sex it makes them feel better. Then you fuck them after they feel good. Your job is to make her feel good. That is your job. So you do that by sticking your hard cock inside her intoxicated pussy. You are a fool if you think she doesn't want this. A FOOL.

So I'm done bitching at you. Now you need to practice what I said about kissing and turning a girl on in the bed room. You need to practice this with other girls. Honestly this girl you are with is probably moving on because you passed up two opportunities and she doesn't know what to do with you. It's not your fault, you just didn't know. But now you know. So go learn for the next girl. And don't get all sad about how you fucked up. My intention isn't to make you feel like shit. It's to make you learn. And sometimes accepting responsibility is hard, but if you can handle it you will reap the rewards, but if you can't then you will suffer the consequences- aka no pussy.

So there you have it. My words of wisdom. I'm calming down now because its 3am. I am so tired. I need to sleep but yet I am addicted to this PUA forum. I think it's because I'm so stressed out because of school that I can't just focus and sleep. Stress is a killer. Anyway. Yea you fucked up a little bit, but it's ok. You are going to be alright. Trust me this girl you think you are in love with is going to trample on your heart like a rotting pile of cow dung. She is going to smear your shit-heart all over her boot and keep walking without even thinking twice. Do yourself a favor and don't care for some girl who doesn't care for you. You won't be able to fully recover from the blow to the ego she will cause you. You can't handle her and you got to learn from her and move on. Don't be a fool.

Last paragraph might not be directed at you, but a little bit of my bitterness coming out. My bad.

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You make valid points. But, I left out key details: the first time people were coming in and out of the room all the time, so couldn't really go for it then. The second time, someone else was in the room, so couldn't really go for it then either.

...so, obviously I wanted to fuck her and would have tried to.

i think when you didnt fuck her, she friend-zoned you. i mean, if you couldnt have sex with her you could have at least got your hands dirty..know what i mean

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que sara sare, LET THAT SHIT RIDE

So what's the best way out of this friend zone? I really want to fuck her.

hell if i know, but if i were you i'd move on. she's sounds really hung up on her "ex." save yourself the trouble and find a new target.

but if you really want her maybe you should start from ground zero, pushing the envelope never really works out in these situations.. but i really have no clue good luck

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que sara sare, LET THAT SHIT RIDE

I don't agree with others that she put you in the friend zone, she is just a type that likes to flirt around, the only advice I can give you is to close the deal when you guys get hot again....

Now, regarding other points in your initial post which may enlighten you a little, even if you don't want to believe in them, they 95% true:
Clear and simple: she is fucking him hard. I know a LOT of girls who are not with their exes anymore but fuck them like 3 times a week.
Here too, simple: he is jealous, even if you don't want to believe it, he is.
Your friend worries me even more than the girl, pay close attention to his behavior in the future, good luck

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v3nu basically said the same thing, she's hung up on her so called EX, i say she friend zoned him cuz i wont sugar-coat my advice to make him think he's still in the running, she's not thinking of fucking him, but does sound like the type to get it poppin' in the heat of the moment (the ASD in action) cuz she layed in bed with him twice

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que sara sare, LET THAT SHIT RIDE

Dude that is the hardest thing to do. EVER. Your best bet is to forget about her and move on. Learn from your mistakes and don't make them again. I hate to tell you this because you more than likely won't listen. But you got to forget about her. You were not ready for her when she came and now its over with her. You got to move on. I mean i don't know the future but fuck man it is so hard to get out of the friend zone. And she kissed her boyfriend in front of you. BIG ass sign that you are in the friend zone. You have to move on. I know it is hard, but you will find other girls. I wish I could take away all the pain and neediness you feel. But I can't, and I don't know how to make it easy to move on after you start to care for a girl. I just don't know.

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@Magnum45 the way u b*tch at tony_ montana cracked the mother of all laughter outta me, I'm gradually becoming a fan of your post lol . I'm the same way when talking to people sometimes. keep it up man.

@tony_montana, I think magnum45 gave u a good piece of advice in case of future occurence, don't let such opportunity slip off next time, if the place u guys were was not condusive or private enough, think of something else to get your d**k dirty bro, I think u can still salvage the situation if u play your card right, is either u freeze her out for a while to make u more attractive again or let her know she is not your only option to get laid. Go hit on other targets and get your fun going instead of going nut for some funny doll who can't break off from her ex, she really does'nt worth it in my own thinking, but hey if u get close next time don't mess it up again.

Thanks man!

Yea Tony. Don't feel bad or anything though she is just some skank and if you don't feel comfortable doing those dirty skanky things then you need to move on. But you got to remember don't let your mind image her to be something she is not. Please don't think she is some good girl who has a bunch of self respect. You got to be better than that bro.

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@Magnum45

You did crack me up too with your response bro, but I think it was the slap round the face that I needed. I need to stop putting that pussy on a pedestal!

@omans02
Thanks as well, that was a nice motivational speech lol.

I just looked at my phone and I had two missed calls from her at 6 in the morning last night, so I think that freeze out must have worked.

damn 2 missed calls at 6am? She'd get another freeze out for that crap lol. Make sure you wear a condom bro. This chick is a piece of work.

This made me Laugh. I was in a similar situation with this girl iv known for years, i used to see her very rarely but every-time i did she fucked my head up. I came to realize that it wasn't worth it and stopped seeing her. end of.

After reading some of the comments here it seems I did the right thing!