Hey guys I'm new to these forums so I'm trying to learn still.

Background - I originally started talking to this girl at the beginning of last college semester but I guess broke it off. She would always come sit with me in class after I broke the initial ice, but I didn't pay much attention to her, thinking that would make her work more to get it. Stopped talking for a bit but she is now a good friend of a female friend of mine so she sits with us every class.

The part I need help with - I've been trying to escelate things for a while now. I've been searching for the right excuse to get her number so any help with that is appreciated. I did read alot on body language and I am receiving mixed signals in that department. I have lots of long conversations with her on facebook. I also asked her to go to my friend's play with me this friday night but she said she was busy. I found out from my female friend that she is going hang out with her high school friend in another city, so I dunno if she legitly said no or really couldn't go. Kino is probably my worst area of expertise. I have no game there so advice on that would also help.

Any and all advice is appreciated guys!

problem... I think your already in the friend zone... so it might be bad if u tried any type of kino or to pursue her... next time u should always flirt with your target and kino them as fast as u can... it shows them that your intentions are not as friends... to help u with kino trying doing little things first and getting comfortable try cracking jokes and shoveling (litely) them... or trying whispering things in there ear for example say I have a secret that no one should know... she will usually say what is it... go in for the ear and tell her a joke or some compliment... usually a good way to start then later u might get comfortable and will be able to touch palms, shoulders, and so forth... or another one is palm reading (I usually don't like going that route because I am more of a natural but I have heard that is great)... last tip always be confident about the touch if ur unsure about it or nervous they will sense it and it will be weird... I have went up to totally random chicks and have touched them... and have gotten good results... but when other have done it, when they were scared or shy... the gurl felt uncomfortable and usually got mad...

I'm going to test the water a bit more to see if she really did friend zone me. Another girl also has been begging for me to go study with her so I'm gonna take her up on it. Will try kino escelation with her.