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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:01 am 
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Regarding to my interactions with ladies, this is the area that I need the most help with. I can begin conversations relatively easily, I have no trouble talking to girls, and I hardly ever get nervous about talking with girls, but as we all know, you can't get by with just that.

So the thing is, after I meet a girl and we talk (either in person or through instant messaging), the end result is that they aren't attracted to me -- either I can't produce the spark that ignites the flame, or I somehow manage to subdue and remove attraction that is already there. In essence, by the time I'm done working my magic, I'm left with friends.

For people that go to school with me (at least, those who are in my grade), I've come to understand and accept this, seeing as up until now, my final year, I've been looked down upon by everyone for the following reasons: I was shy and antisocial, I was the awkward kid that sat at the back of the classroom drawing, and I always got terrible grades and never did my work (I go to a very academically focused school, so this was a very big deal). I was the grimy weird kid, basically, and, although I'm now just an average guy, a part of that former social status has always stuck with me in that girls at my school that know me find me unattractive.

Beyond that though, unless the girl is just a really horny slut, I can only ever make friends. On several occasions I've been introduced to or am near or with a lady I've never met before (note: partying, clubbing, and all that doesn't happen much right now, though will come summertime), I can flash them a smile and start talking and they make it obvious that they are attracted to me (constantly gazing at me, biting their lips, seeking my attention, and mentioning certain things in conversation), but the more we talk, nothing happens, and by the next time I see them (usually there is some decent IM chatting or texting following such events), I'm nothing more than a friend to them.

So I need some help on two areas:
First, how can I take a lady who knows me but does not find me attractive in the least (both friends and girls who shy away from me because of the person I used to be) and get them to want me?
Second, when it's someone new, how can I get her to like me, keep the mutual attraction going, and move beyond the stage where she seems to be attracted to me but nothing is done about it?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:52 am 
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Hey HighContrast!

I'm not a that good of a PUA, but here's my view.

If attraction is your problem then read up on push pulls, open loops and framing. I'm not trying to advocate this product but I'm not sure of any other products that work with those (in fact I'm sure you can find some kind of post around the net), but I truly recommend Swinggcat's Real Wolrd Attraction.

It focuses a lot on attraction and the stuff there tells you shit you had no idea about (well for me at least). I guess it's kinda hard to know what your problem is but I suspect you're not being challenging enough. Be the prize!

One thing I learned from Swinggcat is to try to approach with a mixed body language. When you first approach the girl approach at an angle, 3/4 away from her and maybe with suspicious eyes (When it's her that should be suspicious ahah).

PM me for more info.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:57 pm 
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sounds like your in highschool..
Dude you shouldn't be giving a damn about anything...
I am in college and i was in your position in high school
I was just a normal kid.... nothing to brag about. That got to my head, so i would walk around high school thinking i am " just a normal kid."
Now i have the mental attitude of "Im awesome" I walk around everywhere now talking to anyone and if they don't like me, then i move on to the next person. If i went back to high school with that attitude I could have been prom king. now, this transformation doesn't occur overnight because of your shy reputation. You need to break out and shine your personality. Go to parties and show your face interacting with other girls.(social value) Show that you are "cool" and that you are a social person. Eventually people in your school will take notice and start coming to you more and more. Walk around your school with a huge fun smile on your face and talk to everybody in your school. (social networking) The hot girls will notice also... trust me. You will come off like you are more approachable and your not weird and shy anymore. Remember this takes time so Just stick to it and your life will change.

Part 2... Now i never said i was an awesome gamer but i had this same problem i learned how to use keno and start with sexual innuendoes. That shows your not going for the friend role.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:42 pm 
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Walk through the school knowing you could pick up any girl in the school, I cluding teachers. The natural attraction of a confidence is unreal.

To help with attraction try isolating the target and go get coffee or something real chill and relaxed. Use cocky and funny and throw in some kino every now and then. Try the palmreading thing. I am in highschool and that's what I do alot take girls to coffee shops and just do my deal. I'm an amature lol


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:11 am 
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Well, before anything, build your confidence. You need some frame adjustment. You should be a reflection of what you want to be, regardless of what anyone else thinks. If you aren't, then you're holding yourself back. Your subconscious has created limits or boundaries for you because you believe your former social status is affecting you. It isn't. Think about who you are and how you act in social situations, and if you are being congruent with yourself, your routines, and your intentions with the girl you are talking to. Try to practice having a fun, playful, and sexual vibe when with any females (preferably not relatives :D ).

Also, maybe you aren't using enough kino. Everyone loves to be touched, it makes us feel good. If you initiate kino, she will remember all those good feelings of touch and associate them with you. It will have a greater impact than anything you say to her. I recommend that you search for The Vincent Dicarlo Escalation Ladder on google.

I hope that helps.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:35 am 
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Could you start a conversation with a girl you just happen to be walking in the same direction as? Just like that? Keep opening girls till you can. Eg. where they going, on lunch break? etc.

Then your main thing is, you got to talk to them like you could be their boyfriend later. Show signs of that, with some flirtatious talk, and kino. If you don't escalate, yeah things won't get anywhere.

And get into her state of mind. Use whatever is on her mind as material for you to do those things.

And you MUST set up a Day 2 before you part ways. If you don't, things will fizz out, if you call and set it up after, it's like you didn't have the confidence to set up a day 2 back when you were talking to her. Some guys say "NEVER set up a Day 2 about the girl", I think that's bullshit - if you take charge, you're pressed for time, nothing to go off, you can just say "I like you, I want to get to know you." statement, no questions - rather than nothing at all.

Just feel your way through that mostly - don't focus too much on "routines".


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