i have been getting it a lot lately.. what should i do when they do give me their number?

when they say "i have a boyfriend" i say "its not like im gonna jump on you and start making out and have crazy sex", she laughs and gives it to me

That sounds okay. Keep gaming, You're doing fine.

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yeah but my question is what to do after i get the number?
cuz when i call they dont pick up and same with text..
i guess it depend on what you write on the text and im not really good with text games

A funny response, is "i have one too. they should get together sometime"

But as far as opening on a text, be like, "(insert the girl's name)...the girl from(whatever place you met) shut me down...I'm kind of heartbroken."

It's solid. but if they still don't respond, it's probably because you're doing something in the initial interaction that's turned them off.

'' hey i still want some crazy sex ... but i think you tooo crazy for me''

just say what you want to say .. you got nothing to lose. if you lose her you get a new one

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Well, at least the phone numbers are not for Acohol Anonymous....LOL...

I typically don't try to #-close girls who tell me they have a bf. But I do try to email or facebook close them...The success rate is MUCH better that way in my experience. Plus you can somewhat already get plugged into their FB-circle and who knows, she might have a friend that you want to meet.

But if you keep doing the #-close route when girls say they have a bf, re-evaluate your game, make sure you get a good rapport going on and know when to leave the conversation and continue it some other time. If you leave without anything more to talk about you end it right there and she may not want to talk to you anymore.

Just my two cents...

Best,

J-Dub

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thanks for all the helpful comments!
yeah now when i think about it, after she told me she has a bf i thought "k fuck this, she is lying and ill get her number" and i got it but yeah i never got anything out of it..

here is how it all went:
she works at a perfume store and she was in the front smiling to everyone and i thought do ask for opinion about a nice x-mas gift for a girl
her: "hey can i help you with anything?"
me: "yeah, i actually need your opinion on a good gift i should get to one of my friends, pretend we are together, what would you like to get as a gift from me for x-mas?"
her: "well you can get the perfume"
me: "you just doing your job trying to sell it to me, lets see what you got though"

she laughed and showed me everything and we had good i contact, then as she was looking for the price under the table or whatever there was another girl that i kinda started talking to, i was like "what do u think about the smell of this perfume" she said it good and she likes it but then the first girl came back with the prices and kinda made the second girl go away slowly..
then the first girl went slowly back to position and i was like
"tell you the truth, i didn't come to buy perfume for a friend, i came because you are very cute and i would have felt really bad if i didn't talk to u"
her: "aww thanks"
me: "let me get your # and we get together for some coffee sometime?"
her: "i have a bf sorry "
me: "well its not like i am gonna jump on you and start making out and have crazy sex right here"
her: "hhh okay" (and she gave it to me)
me: "alright sweet, i will give you a text sometime and we will go hang out, have a nice day"
her: "you too, bye"

what did i do wrong?

lol
you have to learn that girls do give numbers quite easily.
She knows nothing about you, and you know nothing about her, you just gave her a compliment and she was in "emotional stage" and gave you a number.

You did good though, its a start.

Try to get girls to give you a number instead, if they do its 100x better.

It is also difficult to pick up girl in a situation like you have, she is just at work doing her job and then she cant wait to get home and get banged by her boyfriend.

And if she has a boyfriend then damn, but its pretty much a no go.
You would have to be cooler, funnier, more interesting, better looking or other stuff for her to care about you.

It is good to have 30 mins convo with a girl.

Any place where people have time to waste like: sport events, library, parties, clubs, casino floors etc.

Stuff like you do is a good practice but nothing solid will come out of it.

People will tell you crazy stories how they picked up girl from a store having 5-10 minutes convo, but you have to be very skeptical when you hear them. The nature of world, and social dynamics in today's world are quite brutal.

Back in the day you could have told a girl she is beautiful, and she would be like omg!! I cant believe some1 told me I'm beautiful, and she would be totally into you. Today she will post her picture on facebook or myspace and have 100 people commenting on how beautiful she is. that is why complements today lost a lot of value.

but i will give you a quote from a book: How to drive your woman wild in bed, by Graham Masterton.

"...the whole business of sexual relationships has a considerable element of chance, on meeting the right girl at the right time, on mood, on circumstance, on the throw of the emotional dice."

So now you know what you did wrong? Nothing...

thanks for the great respond man!
see i got this problem im stuck in:
i have 1 more year to go before i can go to bars and clubs (legally)
when i party (not a lot) people tend to think im drunk when all i try to do is chat with a new girl i just saw but i got this feeling like she thinks "he is drunk.. next".
i dont like using myspace or whatever to pick up girls cuz thats just weird and shows to myself that im shy and insecure.
going to the mall is the only place i can go to where there are bunch of chicks and since i dont have any buddies who do this stuff (PUA) i go by myself but that hard cuz there is no one to you know.. put pressure on you it kinda helps me

any suggestions?

don't compliment them... for all you know she could be secretly a freetime whore...
however sometimes if you say they are cute they will open up , you said what you think. i once walked up a girl and told her i want to fuck her lol.

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rule 1 never telegraph sexual interest ... she said she had a BF, that doesn't mean shit.

i created this on spot on this forum :

i would reply '' yeah bad for you '' or '' yeah me too ''

she : i got boyfriend
me : cutting convo ''whats your favorite .... ?''
she '' well i think...
me : i asked you one question and you already forgot your BF ... GOd whats up with you woman ''

me : '' normally i ask you your number .. you know why because you got a cool personality - but the problem is i can't add any more numbers because i have so many'

she": oh

me : ''too bad they ain't my bank account numbers , well maybe you can write it down for me ''

if she writes down you can bet she's interested and chances are she doesn't got a BF, typing number in phone isn't much to do - but getting a paper and pen is alot of compliance.
girls who gave me numbers on paper didn't flake as much as girls who type numbers in your phones


girls who :

-stand in your proximity by interest

-eyefucks you

-several times of eye contact or she's tries drawing your attention but you keep
looking at the ugly girl.

-if she tossed her hair constantly in your presence

-if she walks in front of you and she looks behind her back twice or more

-when she opens you up, especially when she's opening you up by talking about your appearance.

-girls who keep laughing about stupid shit

-and girls who are drunk .. because they won't remember their boyfriend.

girls who do the above often don't have BFs or they have bad relationships , but to some point al woman want attention BF or no BF. they use the BF metaphor as a way to reject you without making you feel bad or as a way to shit test you.
i never take the BF thing serious.

employees and store personal often say they have a BF , because they know it's against the rules to date a client or customer. at work they can reject but in their free time they would fuck you by the hour. they have to stay nice to customers so they use the i got BF kung fu shield reject.

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i always sarge on my own .. i learned pua of stuff before i read any material - i picked up MM after some time.
you got the feeling she's thinking your drunk ? LOL -- stop thinking FOR WOMAN because you don't know what they think.
it only messes up your game if you are thinking about her, maybe she was thinking : '' o my fucknig god i wanna fuck him, i want this cock to take the edge of my day ''

When your incongruent people often are looking weird towards you .. don't worry this will pass over time and practice. Don't pickup girls on myspace and facebook but do talk with them, try openers - jokes and other material on them but above all try to develop a natural fun conversation.
it got nothing to do with shyness and insecurity i picked up hot girls from facebook and dated them, you see ... it's all in your head because as long you think it isn't socially acceptable it isn't socially acceptable.

i have huge succes with online gaming, i often drink a beer or 2 and talk to some people. MSN and other chat programs are good tools to find out what woman really like or how they respond indirectly to certain questions - tho what a woman says is not often what she really thinks and you will discover. read cosmopolitian as well !

keep gaming store personel , they are nice and they never insult you just try to get a funny convo out of it but above all practice openers on them. GET

TALKATIVE talk to your mom talk to your dog talk to a tree when you walking in the forrest talk to your friends and talk to your self. and when you talk TRY TO BE FUNNY cynical and sarastic. make every convo in your life fun , watch some comedy shows and so forth.

dude.... i sarge alone .. i had to bite trough it and everyone has bad sarge days. i have to tell you this - the more you invest the more you get back.
i was sarging alone and after 2 months i met a '' HB 10 ( damn rating system ) she opened me shit tested me and i passed .... fucked her few times and so forth. i had girls who craved for my attention and body and not to mension the funny sitautions i''ve been in whiel sarging .

here's some inspiration:

THERE IS NO FAILURE ... THERE IS ONLY DELAYED VICTORY.
YOU FUCK LIFE OR LIFE FUCKS YOU
LIFE IS A BOX OF CHOCOLATES .... THEN FUCKING EAT IT
EAT FIRE SHIT LIGHTNING
WHEN GOD DOESN'T GIVE WHAT YOU WORK FOR .... GET IT YOURSELF
IF GOD LAUGHTS AT YOU ... CLIMB THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN AND PUNCH HIS FACE
THE MIGHTY WALK ALONE... WOLFS ARE LONE, HITLER WAS ALONE, ALEXANDER THE GREAT RULED ALONE.

LISTEN TO THIS SHIT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plhCq9Cj9GM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ohmozhsBg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3UnI8DrtJE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoMjRnKRYik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u58UNsAIYw0


GO GET THEM !

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