Transition from A1 to A2



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:01 am 
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Just what the section says i need a good way to transition i know about buzzwords and DHV's, i kinda have alot since imma lifeguard.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:28 am 
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enough about me, what about you?

It's cliche, but it works fairly well.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:08 pm 
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good question.
last night i opened a four set with an opinion opener and all the girls got into it, but i wasnt sure how to continue so i just said "thanks, pleasure to meet you" and rolled off...
it was a "i need a female perspective, how do you feel about tattoos on girls?" two of em showed me tattoos. then i said "the reason i ask is my little sister is getting one of her boyfriends name" anyway there was a lot i could have worked with but i just need an example of how ppl seg from A1 to A2....


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:26 am 
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"great feedback. How do you guys know each other?"

Just switch topics. Make a tangent off one of their responses, so if one of them says,

"tattoos of a boyfriends name are a bad idea, I mean, what happens when it goes wrong"

Then you can transition off of tattoos and in to relationships.

or, just notice something about the group dynamic, or the club, or anything really. Get off of the opener and on to topics that are more likely to give you tanents.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:06 am 
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Yes do ask them how do they know each other. That way u can determine if your target is single and if she is you can disarm the obstacles and neg the target effectively

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:00 pm 
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I also read somewhere that cold calls work well especially in day game or in one sets. Even if they are wrong " Hey are you a teacher? " or anything you might get a feeling she is.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:27 pm 
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yeah this is somthing ive been having trouble with as soon as the opener runs dry i dno what to say and end up ejectin myself from the set. ive read a good way is to use a DHV routine wich will help you reach the social hook point, i.e

"thanks for the info, btw i have to ask, do u always wear your ring on that finger?(rings routine)"
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"are you both best friends? i could totaly tell, lets see if yu can pass the best freind test (BFT routine)"

also using the waypoint of "how do you know eachother?" is good in night game, this may work well also for uni students as you could then talk about how they a met cuz of uni and how ther uni eperience is going, what course ther on, what year are they in ect.

i do have a thought of my own tho when is the social hook point reached? is it when you start having a convosation about somthing other thn your opener?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:05 pm 
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buzz phrase:

You know that reminds me of a time.....(start DHV story)

If your story follows on from your opener then you should have very little trouble seamlessly transitioning from A1 to A2, So, choose your openers carefully with what DHV stories you're going to use. Might want to consider calibrating the story to your set also. Thus affecting the choice of opener.

Example, going in with an opener about whether to buy a cat or dog for your sisters birthday can lead nicely into the story about saving your uncle's pet dog from a river or something.

However, going in with a do you think I look gay with this t-shirt on and then trying to transition to the saving the dog story will be challenging.

Think about the qualities that your story's convey and then try to get an opener that's going to get the girls to elicit values in a guy that they like through a jealous bf/gf opener and then go in there with your DHV story illustrating those qualities that they hold dear.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:50 pm 
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This is very easy jsut be Like by the way to refresh memories A2 is Demostrateing higher value
U just be like you guys are kool ima show you something kool in a lil bit but before i do i want to find out wat kind of ppl u guys are I obviosuly only show this to ppl who are kool , Neg target and go from there

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Difficulties are things that show a person what they are.” Epictetus


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usually what I do, which works quite well, is i'll run my opener (for example) "did you guys see the fight outside?" They respond, and then when im explaining the two girls fighting over a guy i'll stop at some point and go, "by the way, are you guys good friends?" when they answer yes i'll say "i thought so, so anyway there was a girl on either side of him and..." then when im done the routine i'll body rock away and then they usually ask how i knew they were friends so its like they're pulling me back into the convo.

then i give them the best friends test and voila.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:37 pm 
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a great tip i learned to help transition was jst use the words "you know you look like...." then go into a cold reading routine or somthing observational, eg u cn do rings routine from this, break rapport, bust her on somthing, hope this helps :)


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