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i've got openers etc, but i'm more used to day game material seeing as i'm only a teen.
so basically...what sorta stuff do you do in a club game wise? coz the techniques have to be alot shorter obviously as they could get bored...but what are these techniques???
-Teen
p.s. i couldn't find this topic previously discussed but if it has been can you please send a link, if not, advice/routines/techniques are all very welcome
Teen,
There are several things on the forum I think would relate to this but honestly I couldn't find them that quickly either. You can find all kinds of stuff in the routines section if you need it later.
Night game vs Day Game. Let's take a quick look at some of the key differences.
#1 Night Game is much "faster" than Day Game in the typical sense. The conversations flow faster, and you can escalate faster as well. Meaning it's easier to go from meeting at night to a making out where as during the day we typically have to settle for a phone number. Not saying you can do some wild stuff during the day but 90% of guys get a number and a date.
#2 You have a lot more sets you are going to be talking to. You need to be prepared to basically talk to everyone in the venue to leverage social proof and even pre-selection. Make sure you talk to guys, and girls. If you pick and choose your sets of only girls it's obvious to the room what you are there for. If you talk to everyone, you can't be singled out that way.
#3 HAVE FUN! Your attitude having fun and having a good time is key. If you have a good energy, and the group is feeding off your good vibe then it will work out well. If you are low energy and kind of "ho hum" the group will reject you because you are taking away from their good time.
#4 Groups - you will be talking to two sets to five sets, and bigger. Make sure to talk to everyone in the group, especially the guys! If you leave someone out then you are likely to be interrupted.
#5 Learn to project your voice. These places are loud so learn to project your voice and speak loudly from the diaphram without yelling. An exercise for this is placing a tape recorder across the room from you and backing up while keeping your volume about the same.
#6 When you open you are going to be closer to the groups than during the day. During the day the average distance most guys open from successfully is about 4-5 feet so they don't creep the girl out. At night it's about 2-3 feet so you'll be a lot closer to your target.
#7 Drink if you want but watch your intake. You know that you need your mind to get through this process and do this well. If your mind is clouded with alcohol then it's harder.
#8 Get good at isolating the girl from the group. You'll have to get her away from her friends in order to build better comfort and rapport with her. Also getting the girl use to be alone with you during a move to another location in the venue or bouncing to another place is the key to getting better.
#9 Learn how to merge sets. This will become invaluable to you as you get better in field.
Finally #10 remember Sinns 5 Immutable Laws of Pickup
**These will save your butt**
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1. Ignore anything which cannot help you get the girl. This is the heart of being non-reactive, dealing with social pressure, whatever you wanna call it. You have to learn to ignore things, be they congruence tests or guys entering your sets. If it doesn't help you, it's useless and not worth giving attention to.
2. Always be cooler than the girl. Even if it's just .001% you always have to act as if you think she's not as cool as you. This can take the form of teasing, commanding, or simply not explaining yourself. Girls are just not evolutionarily programmed to be attracted to guys of equal or lesser status. It sucks but it's the way the world works.
3. ABC. Or always be closing as my buddy Entropy would say. As a man you must take all responsibility for escalation. From physically escalating to maintaining plausible deniability with her friends. Everything is up to you. Men are sexually aggressive, women are sexually receptive.
4. Saying something is better than saying nothing. When you see a girl you want to approach it is WAY easier to go in and mess it up than to sit around debating the different ways you could do it. Give yourself permission to fail. Because even trying puts you ahead of 99% of guys.
5. Thinking in field is the enemy. I always say " less thinking, more making moves." Which besides being a line I stole from a Dave Chapelle stand up special, applies to pick up perfectly. Thinking is the worst thing you can be doing when you're out. Actually maybe it's the second worst after talking about game. Instead let go of the outcome, recognize that you are on the plateau as George Leonard calls it in Mastery and put in the work. Do approaches, get blown out, learn. That's the only point of going out to game. Not to oggle and complain about how all the sets are too hard.
I know that's a lot to digest at once and that's not everything but it'll get you headed in the right direction. Hope it helps.
CHAT