Okay, this is my first post on here. Not entirely sure I placed this thread in the right spot but I'm seeking some advice. I'm a 25 year old virgin and one of my good friends sent me to get my hair cut by a girl (whom he fucked the first night they met). So I went and got my hair cut from her two times. I was on point the first two visits, had lively convo and made her laugh throughout. So the third time, after getting my hair cut, I causally ask her for her number so I know when she's working and to perhaps take her out for dinner sometime. About a week later I text her and run the idea by her and she seemed happy to oblige me. I told her my car was in the shop and I'd get a hold of her when I became available...Fast forward about four days, I text her asking if she'd still like to get down and... No reply.. What do I do? Should I never text her/see her again orrrr send a text asking what's up or just wait until I need a hair cut again??

Hmm.. do you have reports that tell you that she definitely read the text? I think you fucked up when you didn't set a definite date. You shouldn't have text her until you were available to set a definite date.

It also didn't help matters when you text to check if she still wanted to do it - that makes it look like "Are you sure that YOU want to go out with ME? Am I good enough?"

However; if you know 100% that she read the text, don't bring it up again. Carry on as if it never happened, just go get your hair cut when you need it and don't mention anything about her ignoring your text. If she texts you, make some small talk/banter and then say "So, when are you free to get together? I'd love to see you outside of work " or something... If she rejects it then, never ask again.

Don't text her until you hear from her though. Corey Wayne says its like a game of tennis - you wouldn't hit a ball over, then hit another one before they got chance to hit it back, right? The ball is in her court now, wait for her to hit it back before you swing.


If, however, you don't know for a fact that she read the text... you could ask in person "So, did you figure out about getting together?"

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Sooo, I text her again today asking if she had changed her mind and she informed me she was on a lengthy car ride and the messaged slipped her mind. I cleverly asked her if I had intimidated her and she "lmafo"-ed about it.... I really have no idea what to do on the first date or what to purpose we do.. This. Is easily the most beautiful non-stripper girl to take interest in me.. What are some good suggestions? There is a top notch steak house next to her work place and I'm thinking of just suggesting that.

On a side not, how do you guys feel about spending money on a romantic interest. "I have a lot of cash, and I don't mind spendin it".. Wiz Khalifa references aside, she cuts hair and I tip her 15$ per hair cut which is pretty damn good considering they're 11$ hair cuts and I'm considering asking if she wants to go to the mall and buying her some shit if she'll let me.

OH MY GOD!!!! Where to even begin... Did you not read my last reply? You're communicating that you don't think you're good enough for her... so you decided to text her, and make it even worse? You're going to make her actually believe that you're not good enough, and friendzone you. I'll just list things out.

1. Do NOT text her that. Do not text her anything like that, ever again. Just assume shes interested in you, fucking hell. You'll be lucky if you haven't blown it now.

2. The message "slipped her mind" which should give you some kind of idea of how important you are to her. You're talking about her like you want to marry her, yet she doesn't even remember to text you back?

3. Stop the fucking tips. You're giving her those tips as a subconscious bribe for sex. "Here, I've got money that I can give you, can I please have your approval now?" She'll come to expect more and more of this SPAM, and realise that she doesnt have to do anything to EARN it.

4. Don't buy her any gifts until you're in an exclusive relationship, and even then it should only be once in a while to surprise her.

5. You decide what to do on a date. Don't ask her what she wants to do, PLEASE don't ask her what she wants to do. All she wants to do is turn up looking hot, have fun, and get to know you a little better. Its your job as the man to arrange something, and have her uncover it live... not even know where you're taking her until you get there.

6. Stop talking about her like shes a fucking queen. She isn't any better than any other girl.

There's a link in my signature to an article I wrote with some good first date ideas.

EDIT: The phone should only be used for setting dates. Not for asking for constant reminders that shes interested! I'd say you've already blown this (I'm sorry to be the one to tell you) but if you haven't, you're dangerously close and need to get your act together. My guess is that she'll flake on dates with you until you get the hint now.

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Cool, your doing well so far bud, your being a gentlemen, your moving things forward and your showing a genuine interest I hope youve also been flirting a bit so she knows what you want subliminaly. Anyway, good job so far. As far as the date, take her somewhere you can talk, dinner or drinks is okay, make sure is near your house, if shes having a good time suggest going back to your place or hers for some drinks then kiss and fuck. Done deal. Dont be afraid to make the move, girls know what is going on. Just make sure you have fun, show her a good time, and lead lead lead ! Good luck ! And as a sidenote: when your spending money make sure you do it because you want to, not because your trying to impress. Money is not what really gets the girl, is the connection and the good vibe, and remember, girls love to fuck a guy they enjoy.

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Are you just being friendly? He is doing absolutely horrific and he knows it. He got so clingy and paranoid that she laughed at him, rightfully. I think you're just saying that to protect his feelings, which won't work. You're just encouraging the same kind of behaviour in the future.

You know as well as I do that he's showing it the wrong way, you could at least try to help the guy instead of pretending it's fine to confuse neediness with interest? He's not going to get laid doing what hes doing, you know this. Have you actually read his post?

Don't tell him what he wants to hear - he'll thank you more in the long run for telling him what will actually work, instead of trying to bribe his way to a fuck.

You have a point, but they're also predictable. However, they're not terrible.


Well said.

No, just generally dont spend money on a girl you're not in a relationship with. If he invites her out for a meal, then he should pay for her meal, but that is it.



I'd love to know, what makes you think hes doing a good job so far? Hes fucking throwing money at her and shes rejecting him. Why are you sweet talking him? I'm sorry if you think I'm being a dick, I just know for a fact that it's a lot more effective than to be given the whole "But well done for trying your best" speech.

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Dude, based on his last two posts , yea the dude is not a master pua, but what has he lost really? He has money, he can spend it however he wants as long as its okay with him and as long as he is aware shes not being a gold digger. Thats that. He hasnt lost anything, he just had to keep leading unti she either fucks him or simply rejects his advances, why must everything be so complicated? Im talkin to him about this situation in particular, and I dont see the loss from his side, yea his game is not quote and quote perfect, but if he leads, and is smart about his investing,chances are he'll get the pussy. This aint about the perfect game technique bruh. I believe what I said will give him the best chances of gettin laid with her. Given the info he posted. Now enstead of correcting my post why dont you state your tactics about what you think he should do. Im sure theres a million things he can do, but im giving him my simple opinion based off the facts provided, and I highly believe in what im sayin. Now as far as me cheerring him on, Is cus I felt like it budy , so mind your own business. Thanks.
Oh and do me a favor bro, dont you ever knite pick my posts like that again, just help the guy and stay da fuk out of my answer, I hate dat shit. Troll.

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nathoonder...

Here is my best tip to you at this point bud.

Since you seem to have your act together as far as cash is concerned... I would do this...

1. Find a high-value activity that YOU want to do... something fun... if you like music maybe a concert.

2. Text her with the following approach:

"Hey, I am going to see the Arctic Monkeys on Saturday, are you going too?"

-> Important here that you are NOT inviting her to come with you, merely asking if she is going as well...

3. This displays that you have stuff going on besides her, and are a fun guy.

She will respond with something like: "No! But I wish I could!"

4. Boom, you're back in...

5. From here you have two options...

5A. Set a date to meet after the show.
5B. Ask if she is free on Saturday, and offer to buy her a ticket as long as your next haircut is on her!

...There is a myriad of other approaches you can take at this point, the above is simply one of my suggestions.

Hope that helps!

Don't blow out your sets dude,

Cheers.

Look at my first comment, I did.


Not really any need to be like that - I also found the positives in your post, you're just ignorant to that. You suggested that he keeps wasting his money on this girl, investing more and more, getting attached, then realising that hes a meal ticket until a guy who knows his shit comes along.

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JDaniel, is apparent to me you dont go out and meet women, please get some experience then comment, stop trolling and flipping my words, you are interpreting my responses through you unexperienced choad lenses. I do find it amusing. But im afraid I dont have time to troll back and forth with you buddy. Go get laid or something?
Although you do have a bit of truth to your theoretical mechanical responses, you seem to lack the "meeting women" part of the whole process.
Sidenote: girls are not stupid, they can see game from a mile away

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Not that I need to qualify myself to you for some sort of validation, but I actually meet quite a lot of women, I just don't do a lot of approaching. Experience? I'm confident that I have more than you, not that it really matters in the slightest.

Anger is always caused by fear. What are you scared of?

You want me to go get laid? Ok, should I go and spend some money on a girl, to show "interest" and get laid?

It doesn't matter if girls can spot "game" from a mile away, if "game" is a part of your natural personality, then they're spotting you from a mile away.

There's very little truth to your rom-com movie style responses, you seem to lack the "understanding women" part of the whole process.

Is your experience with prostitutes? I'm trying to find out what nerve I hit, when all I did was give genuine advice, which in my opinion was good advice.

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Lol, is all good j, no hard feelings here. Lets all solemnly stick to our opinion from now on without stepping on eachothers toes. And let the cards fall as they may.
Cheers(;

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@J.Daniels "You're communicating that you don't think you're good enough for her... so you decided to text her, and make it even worse? You're going to make her actually believe that you're not good enough, and friendzone you. I'll just list things out."

How am I doing this? I can see where you're coming from in you 1-6 pointers though. I wanted to know if she still wanted to go on a date so I took the direct approach and asked. She said "Yeah" and we're suppose to meet up tomorrow (Monday) actually.

If I've indeed blown things with her I suppose there isn't much to look forward to and in the back of my mind I'm not 100% certain she won't flake out.

Great, if she accepted means she still in the loop, lead lead lead and if shes feeling comfortable in the date take things back to your place or hers and close. I would typically persue girls and try to get them out on dates if I seriously believe they arent playing games. I typically try two times or three if her excuses seem genuine. After that I arrive at the conclusion shes not interested and move on. But this one seems to be responding well, doubt itll flake. If she flakes use the three times rule. Try once more and thats it. By the way if the excuses seem genuine you can try 100 times, is all a judgement call from your part, the only rules that really exist are your boundaries as a man. Get'em tiger ! Let me know how it goes with her

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She said she couldn't tonight because she had to baby sit her brothers for her dad who works like, 50 miles away. Upon telling me the news she also asked if there were any other days that would work for me. I told her that other than working and working out my schedule is pretty lax and told her to pick a day.. Four hours later and she hasn't text me back.. So I think I blew it, pretty bummed out about it She's the first (non-stripper) girl who's shown remote interest in me and now my hopes are COMPLETELY dashed... I'm utterly perplexed. I'm BETTER looking than my buddy she slept with, and he's said so himself! I'm better looking, have more money, and work out on a regular basis.. Am I missing something here??