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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:56 pm 
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Hey boys, I'm new and this is my first post. I've read a few things here and there but still haven't found what I'm looking for so hopefully I'm posting in the right place and you know the answers.

I'm fine with the concept of negs - you tell her why she's not the one for you while giving her a compliment
e.g. I'm usually a brunette man, but your blonde hair is lovely.
(Is that right?)

Also, what topics do I talk about which demonstrate value?

I know for instance to talk about my exes (not too much) because it displays pre-selection.
But, what other topics are useful for generating attraction in her head?

I've been messaging this girl on tinder and we've been having a great time. I don't use any games (OK, I use playing hard to get) but nothing like cold reading or anything like that and just rely on my natural game. But, later we're gonna talk on the phone for the first time and I think it might be useful to have something in my locker to ensure I'm separate from all the other guys she might talk to.

Many thanks!


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Hey boys, I'm new and this is my first post. I've read a few things here and there but still haven't found what I'm looking for so hopefully I'm posting in the right place and you know the answers.

I'm fine with the concept of negs - you tell her why she's not the one for you while giving her a compliment
e.g. I'm usually a brunette man, but your blonde hair is lovely.
(Is that right?)

Also, what topics do I talk about which demonstrate value?

I know for instance to talk about my exes (not too much) because it displays pre-selection.
But, what other topics are useful for generating attraction in her head?

I've been messaging this girl on tinder and we've been having a great time. I don't use any games (OK, I use playing hard to get) but nothing like cold reading or anything like that and just rely on my natural game. But, later we're gonna talk on the phone for the first time and I think it might be useful to have something in my locker to ensure I'm separate from all the other guys she might talk to.

Many thanks!

A Neg is a backhanded compliment. Neg's are like playing with dynamite. That stuff is advanced and with some girls will get you nothing. It requires a LOT of calibration to use right. I would drop them all together. You have a lot of better tool's to do what Neg's do, which is to Break Rapport. If you are using Neg's to lower her 'Value' you are coming from the wrong Frame. That would require some inner game work. Stick with teasing girls, it is far more efficacious and natural.

Demonstrating Value is tossed around a lot. I do not remember where I read this, but I loved it: "People who have to show value, have no value." Your Value as a man is just that. You do not need to demonstrate it, just act through your own intentions. Another good trick is this, by being an authority. By offering information about a topic that is relevant, and acting as if you are an authority, you demonstrate a lot of Value, without cramming it down her throat. This cuts a lot of BS out. A horrible example is if you are watching a fight at a bar and a girl is confused, by explaining what is going on and why a fighter is setting something up, you demonstrate knowledge and authority in that world, rather than needing to list accomplishments or brag that you box or grapple.

Talking about ex's is not as efficacious in my experience as talking about women in your life. If you hang out with women, it still hits preselection without risking coming off as hung up.

As far as not Cold Reading, Cold Reading boils down to just being observant. It should be a tool you have naturally, if not it is something to work on.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:55 pm 
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I'm sorry but I will have to slightly disagree with previous post. Negs are one of the best things ever. They Lay's work for me. One guy on here JayWa I think refers to them kinda in a sub category as teasers. I got some from mystery some from Style some after just practice. For ex: if she smiles I say "Wow you have a cute smile?" (Sounds typical...wait for it). Then when she thanks me I say wait...Did you wear braces? (Braces smiles usually are easy to pick out) when she says yes.. "Oh nevermind you cheated! I take it back". Then I look away with a conceited disappointed look. Then I let out a little smirk . Or I complimestone her top right? Then I say "Did you pick that dress out by yourself? Who dressed you tonight? She will get a playful attitude (have to sell the comment with your facial expressions and your tone) "I did!!!" Then I say .. "oh. .. Well it's actually kind of fly". (As if I didn't expect her to have the ability to look that nice.) Then I say "But you know the shoes make the outfit, and I haven't looked down yet. So tell me before we look down (we.. now she is engaged it's an us thing) "is your shoe game on point? Did you come with it?" Of course she will either be cocky and say oh yes, or be self conscious with it. Either way . When we look I say (I like....Okay maybe you're not so bad after all. You know ..maybe we will work out afterall..


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:11 pm 
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Cold reads do take a
Some practice. Some stuff comes naturally but .much stuff you need to practice. I jiggly recommend the cube. It is amazing. Probably the best cold read ever


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:01 pm 
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The best Neg I've used which has had loads of results is the old faithful one from The Game, although Negs are kinda 1990's.

However during compliance whilst holding her hand say "our skin is really smooth, it reminds me of a slug"

The girls I still talk with still say that this is the best line a guy has ever said to them and it makes them laugh.

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