Last night I was at a party and after it died down a group of us (about eight) went out for more drinks. There was an HB9 that I hadn't yet talked to and as we were putting on our jackets before leaving the party someone comments on her very red jacket so I ask her if she knows what the meaning of the color red is. She doesn't know so I tell her it's the color of passion and aggression. So she says "well I'm not aggressive" and I tell her that's a good thing.

We all arrive at the place, but it's too crowded with nowhere to sit. So I decide to take charge and show her that I'm alpha by leading the group somewhere else. I think I asked her what she thinks, which was a mistake but when she says she doesn't know I try to regain control by taking the menu she's looking at from her hand and saying "let's go." I walked outside and waited for her and the rest of the group, which followed.

I actually was not sure of where to go, but another guy had an idea so we followed him. At the new place, we find a table, but there is only enough place for about half of us to sit so again I lead the group to a larger table (two people still had to stand). I sit down first and the others start sitting. She is still standing unsure of where to sit so I tell her she can sit next to me. She does and we start talking.

The conversation goes well. I start kino, first on her upper back and eventually lower back. I run out of things to say or ask a few times but she keeps it going by asking me questions, which I took as an IOI. The only other IOIs I could notice were sideways crossed legs pointed towards me, or when she wasn't crossing her legs, her feet were pointed towards me. I'm not convinced that stuff is that relevant though. I do some negs followed by approval, nothing big. Then the mindreading/number-guessing thing and we have some laughs about it. We must have talked for 20-30mins and then we reach a high point where I think I've made a good impression but don't know what to say or do next so I go to the bathroom (leaving at the high point). But when I get back this other dude (I was sitting between him and her) is talking to her. She has taken my place so now she is between us two guys. She makes a joke about the fact that now I'm the one who will have to get up all the time to let people through. So I say "c'est la vie" and she repeats it and basically we stop talking from that point -- it was loud in there and I couldn't hear the conversation she was having with the other guy and since they wouldn't stop talking I felt like it would be really awkward to just interrupt them with something random (couldn't think of a thing anyway).

So I start talking to the girl who is in a group sitting at the table next to ours. We have a fun conversation. Her boyfriend is also there and makes some jealous comment, which I ignore. She says a few times that he is very jealous and rolls her eyes. I'm sure a master PUA could easily have stolen her from him, but I'm no master and most importantly I have a rule about not going after girls who are in a relationship. Anyway I was talking to her (and a bit to the rest of the group) because I was getting bored but I also thought this would be a good way to show value to the girl i had previously been talking to (she couldn't understand anything I was talking about to the other girl/group because it was in another language).

So fast forward 10-15 minutes and my group is getting ready to leave. The guy who had started talking to her makes what I consider an AFC move by helping her put on her jacket... but who knows, maybe in her world it's positive. I make one last move by asking her if she wants to go somewhere else and have some cocktails. I know I should have told her instead of asking -- will have to remember that for next time but I don't think it would have worked anyway. She said she is just going to go home and tells me to have fun with my Danish friends. My entire group leaves and I'm the only one who stays behind.

What do you guys think? It's always very hard for me to close. I think I did pretty well but no result in the end. What could I have done differently? In the end should I have insisted more to go somewhere else with her? Should I have asked for her number as a last resort? Guess I wouldn't have had anything to lose but I don't think it would have worked and I would look more AFC to her (who knows, I might run into her again).

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By the way the party we were at was from a Meetup so now I've had the fantastic idea to write her a short message through the site, but not sure what to write. What do you think of this?

Hi [name]. Thank you for the conversation last night. Next time you can tell me more about your design ideas and I will "read your mind" correctly

Then if she replies I can ask her to meet me...

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Aw man I can't believe no one replied to your post. I'm wondering if this is the best site, maybe it's not quite active enough. Do you know of any other sites/forums that are more active with PUA's?

Thanks for posting your field report. I'm pretty inexperienced myself so I can only encourage you and say good work. Obviously that guy cock blocked you and screwed up your game. So how could you neutralise him? You could either take her away from him (and the group) somehow or have a wing to help cockblock him. E.g. have your wing talk to this other guy so that he's not talking to your target, and then take over.

An idea, I'll throw it out there: mention something that you want to show her at some point early on, and then when you come back from the toilet you could call out to her and say "Hey, come here for a sec, I wanna show you that thing". If you've built up enough rapport she will come, probably so as not to be rude.

Any other ideas out there guys? Or is it just gonna be AFC's giving AFC's advice?

Also I think your meetup message thing sounds lame and desperate. You've got nothing to lose though, since you don't have her number just give it a go.

You sound like you use natural game, hope so.
I think you did great and there were few obstacles who based on your dicisions were like they were and you couldn't do about it.

But in the end you should have spiked your high value, by telling somthing canned, a story. She would have stayed longer to listen to it and it would have given you an excuse to finish the story with a cocktail.

Imo, this would have made the difference.