Met girl at workplace, talked for a while. Called next day asked to go for drink. Gave her number, she txted back nearly immediately. Short convo, hey, whatsup, good, just working, did gettting a drink sound good, yea sounds good, ok going to bed bye. That was Sat night, its now monday morn, No talking/texting since. Basically wondering should I text to chit chat a bit (although I usually hate texting, when theres slow responses its just awkward), or should I call and ask when a good time to go out? Was thinking of a bar. Because we were talking about different bars and nightclubs/stripjoints weve been to when first met

I'd call so she can actually hear u. Speak with confidence and try to set up a date!

if you call realize there is just a small chance shes going to answer the phone, so you either have to phone stalk her, or leave a message and possible utilize callback humor.

Ive tried calling and texting and found the results similar. Since she either likes you sufficiently or she doesn't, there are only a few boderline cases where calling vs. texting may affect the outcome. I prefer to just text now because im lazy.

was about to txt then recieved a txt, talked for 2hrs. then I cut it right before i felt it was about to get stale. said was going to bed. Where do I go from here, txt the next day and arrange to meet or call or talk more. Wait a few days? Once I actually am face to face, im fine. If they dont like my personality then its not gonna work anyway. Ive just never been good at this whole texting/setting up crap.

Sounds like your on the right track.

text to arrange a meet up, any more talking just builds comfort and rapport, which is not what you need to get a date, its attraction which you have hopefully began to establish. NO DINNERS.

here is 2 ways ill text to set up a date.

"Hey crankypants, lets meet up at x'oclock Wednesday or Thursday, I have a cool place in mind I think you will like"


- 2 options eliminates a chance she is busy assuming she is interested. I dont specify a place and leave some mystery, girls love that. Im also taking the dominant frame by not asking her but discussing our plans. Woman loves a guy who takes charge, I cant tell you the number of times girls thanked me for NOT asking their opinion on date ideas and just taking charge.

here is another one, via Roosh, I like

" What night are you free this week, I have somewhere we should go"

- more ambiguous but more flexible if she is a super busy girl. If she doesn't give you a date from this then leave her alone, shes not interested.

Check the sticky at the top of this section. You'll find very helpful information.

Allright that sounds good. I wanna do this at night, nothing fancy this is just more of practice anyway. Goal is just to get it in. Was thinking maybe a sports type bar? since I mentioned a drink. Problem is there are tons and ive only been to a few. So im not really sure about the good ones. Is it really demonstrating lower value to say something like, "What night your free this weekend and do you have any place youd prefer us to go"?

Im 19 so im new to this. Boinking girls at house parties was so much easier. Oh and the girls 29 btw, she thinks im 25.

Maybe invite her over for drinks at your place as you just want to get it in. My favorite first date venue is a dark quite cocktail lounge.

As far as needy goes you said

""What night your free this weekend and do you have any place youd prefer us to go"?


remember what I wrote in my previous email? Don't do this, your not leading, so drop the "do you have any place youd prefer us to go"?" You need to get used to leading, this is one of the few areas of being a PUA im sure is 100% correct in all situations, girls like a strong male lead, don't ask her for her input in the beginning, very unAlpha. Also I wouldn't restrict your choices to the weekend or else your putting her in a bad position of a Saturday night (already booked, typical GF night) or Sunday. Are you against just asking if she is free Monday or Wednesday night? hats a lot less needy then leaving your weekend open to her.

Your right about banging chicks at house partys, no number closes, if I would have figured that as the proper mode of operation at 19 I would have been the champ.

Bringing her to mine wouldnt work as I live with parents. Would fuck everything up. Going to her place would work for me, I feel id best be able to play it out there. Just acting interested in stuff and watch tv or whatever. I get the closest to girls when I can just do stupid shit with them indoors. If I said were going to your place that might just be creepy or too obvious and would fuck it up. If I asked what she prefers her place or the bar, again thats asking which is bad. Fuck

And for me house parties was a highschool thing, and since im not in college i dont really hear of any. All my buddies either smoke pot, or go to the bars.

In that case your sports bar idea is fine, the venue isn't that important as long as she isn't going to be distracted from your attention.