Retrieving a girl(10er) with a boyfriend, from 1.(2.) base??



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:45 am 
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Hey guys! Been a long time lurker and in the game for 5-6 years. Like I said in my presentation - I always end up with a GF when I get into the game again after a relationship.

Now is no different, I have a girlfriend. But I do keep my game on and giving the next guy some easier work at the same time. I usually do the pickup and dump right before 1->3. base is upon me :) I know, it`s sleazy, but gives me a rush without actually "cheating".

On to my question.
I was in a bar about a month ago and hooked a girl (10er) with a lot of the usual techniques. "Anchored" in she being my X already right after we met (don`t ask - but it worked).

So, not before long she was asking me to walk her home. She turned out to live only a couple of blocks from the bar. On the way she asked me to hold her warm, so I did. We got to the door and I don`t know what got into me after chatting with her, but at the point where I usually dump and run (right before offered a base) I stuck it out. We ended up french kissing outside her house. She told me we had to move inside and that I couldn`t come up since she`s living with someone. Checked it out - think she has a boyfriend.
She gave me her number and I went on my way.. (I was a bit regretful about actually kissing her though).

A few weeks later I`m still curious about her so I sent her an SMS, without response. I don`t have much fieldwork in PU through SMS. Must have written something wrong.....


First SMS was something like this:
Hey, didn`t actually plan on texting you because of the whole "boyfriend thing" after I walked you home from B81 . But what can I say, I`m to curious to help it. So, how`s it going?

(I know, sounds newbie - but didn`t give the sms much thought.)

Crash and burn? Or retrievable?
So, anyone got advice as to what to say in SMS number two?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:11 am 
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I was thinking maybe something along the lines of:

- Do I really have to meet you at B81 again for us to get married in the Bahamas?
Miss your hot lips.. to bad we broke up before we got to the good part ;)

If I send this then I`m totally ignoring the fact that she has a BF in the SMS. Wondering if it would be better to comfort her about sending me some response. Something like:

- I don`t care if you have a boyfriend - my lips are sealed, unless it`s for you ;)

Maybe combine them like this?
- Do I really have to meet you at B81 again for us to get married in the Bahamas?
I don`t care if you have a boyfriend - my lips are sealed, unless it`s for you ;)

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Or maybe I should trigger a natural response like:
Getting back at me for not texting you the first three weeks? Understandable after that hot kiss we shared.

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But I feel the last one is kind of a last chance option. Fail on that response and there will never be another chance.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:55 am 
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I would not mention the boyfriend at all...you want to be the distraction not the reminder. If she wants anything, its sexual flirtation..and maybe sex...so give her what she wants, don't give her more of the boring crap she already has to deal with her existing boyfriend...dont offer her commitment or relationship just offer her fun.


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I would not mention the boyfriend at all...you want to be the distraction not the reminder. If she wants anything, its sexual flirtation..and maybe sex...so give her what she wants, don't give her more of the boring crap she already has to deal with her existing boyfriend...dont offer her commitment or relationship just offer her fun.
good point... forgot about that one. It`s obviously what she wanted, but since she didn`t respond I think it`s one of three things:
1. She felt bad afterwards, and doesn`t want to take the risk.
2. My neglect of sending her an sms within 3 weeks.
3. My f*ed up first sms.

Number 1 beeing why I proposed writing that to calm her down. I can see how that would be a rookie mistake.


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In this situation I would make sure not to mention a boy friend. She never mentioned he was. you ar going off of some checking. There is a reason she didn't mention him if he is.
Second you sent a long text explaining yourself. You made it sound like you weren't interested. I am wasn't going to text you. Thats what she would interpet it as.
this is not a burn through you can go ahead and contiune on with the conversation as normal. I would say you should just message here after a week and say something to bring her back in that state that you meet her.
I got a chill today couldn't help but think of you.
If she responds then she is still iterested if she doesn't then it is about time to drop it i would say. Just some one you invite to go out every so offten as part of a mass text. Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:02 am 
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Tbh I dont know what you were hoping to achieve by texting after 3 weeks?? How did you think she would respond? I think waiting that long conveys that you were 'thinking' about it too much, thus she is affraid that giving you the green light will lead to you chasing her as your GF and not for the fun times that she had mind.
Surely all buying temp would have disappeared in that time.
Just some thoughts...


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:16 pm 
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Tbh I dont know what you were hoping to achieve by texting after 3 weeks?? How did you think she would respond? I think waiting that long conveys that you were 'thinking' about it too much, thus she is affraid that giving you the green light will lead to you chasing her as your GF and not for the fun times that she had mind.
Surely all buying temp would have disappeared in that time.
Just some thoughts...
Ok, so how would I go about making a short text that is fun, getting her to respond AND to eliminate the underlying feeling she might have that I`ll chase her as my GF.


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In this situation I would make sure not to mention a boy friend. She never mentioned he was. you ar going off of some checking. There is a reason she didn't mention him if he is.
Second you sent a long text explaining yourself. You made it sound like you weren't interested. I am wasn't going to text you. Thats what she would interpet it as.
this is not a burn through you can go ahead and contiune on with the conversation as normal. I would say you should just message here after a week and say something to bring her back in that state that you meet her.
I got a chill today couldn't help but think of you.
If she responds then she is still iterested if she doesn't then it is about time to drop it i would say. Just some one you invite to go out every so offten as part of a mass text. Hope this helps.

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do you mean chill like in "down my back"? It sounds a bit weird in my language.. but great getting some input :)


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So I actually got a response!!!

I wrote:
So me and a few buddies are doing something special this thursdag, and enjoying a few cold beer, couldn`t help it but came to think of you.

The response:
Hmmm... Was that SMS meant for me? I don`t have your number stored on my phone.

(Maybe she forgot that she gave me her number? Or has given it out to so many that she has to ask who it is..)

So guys, what do you think I should answer?

I actually have a special thing with my buddies this thursday and a few brewskies afterwards - going to eat some peculiar food at a restaurant... :)


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Sorry ment chill, ad in somthing cold. the point is that it is something you noticed and you though of her. It works best to relate it back to her and your interaction. This will bring her back to that stat of mind. Now since she doesn't rember you have to write back with something to jog her memory.
This is where nick names for each other role playing are good to bring back up ina funny way. Try to rember something bring it up in a funny way. Once she rembers and has fun vibe back. You try to get her off the phone to a meeting. this way you run game as usual. Hope this helps.

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thanx for the help bro!


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Your are texts are a bit AFCish. You should call her instead since it been so long or get her on the phone after some texting ASAP.

Also are you not contradicting your whole first post of not cheating?


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Your are texts are a bit AFCish. You should call her instead since it been so long or get her on the phone after some texting ASAP.

Also are you not contradicting your whole first post of not cheating?

You`ve got me figured out right now. So yes, I`m contradicting my whole first post.. after a few years of being tied down, I simply saw more short term benefits with this girl than long term benefits in my relationship now.

I`m not going to go into further details about this, "true love is out there", probably, if so - i don`t want to rob anyone here of it.... I felt the risk compensated for my lack of getting whatever I didn`t have in my relationship now. So will I break it off, I don`t know, it`s a big personal step.

Second, yes, my texts are not a bit but ALOT AFCish.. i simply don`t do texts, SMSs or dates.. I just DO, right there - living in the moment. I usually don`t get numbers, names or any other further connections.

In my previous relationships I`ve always been "headhunted" by the girl afterwards, and maybe I felt that showed some interest worth pursuing.. still trying to figure my self out -AFTER 10 YEARS- in that department.


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