So I met this really cool girl on Tuesday at school. She came over to our table in the cafeteria and we had lunch for about an hour. On Friday night (last night) we went out and then she came over to my house. We had a great time- I taught her 'someone like you' by adele on the piano, we watched a movie and snuggled, we're talking about sexual topics, she's asking me questions like 'tell me about your family, how many girlfriends have you had, bla bla bla' everything is going great.

Then it gets weird.

We're kissing each other but she won't kiss me on the lips. She doesn't want to makeout. She said something to the extent that if we makeout this early then i wont stick around or some crap. I'm thinking that if she won't even make out with me then it's not like im going to get sex any time soon.

Besides, on a side note i am reasonably certain that if she was drinking alcohol we would definitely been making out and probably had sex. However, i don't drink. I don't like alcohol. Thats just one of my boundaries in life, it's a decision i've made. However, she's definitely made out with guys or had sex with them who were a lot less cooler than me just b/c she was drinking. That's how it works.

So i got pretty upset with her and passive aggressive like 'fine do whatever you want'. I'm not going to invest if i get no return for my labor. Especially when other guys who are putting a lot less in are getting so much more from her simply b/c they are drinking.

So although im not happy with how things turned out i was true to myself and i feel like she screwed it up. We could have had a great time but she was holding back. She said she wants to come over again but there is no way that is happening if she wouldn't even makeout with me. Which is too bad b/c she was an otherwise great girl. As a PUA would you have handled this differently? Also, should I become a social drinker purely for the sake of sex?

Stop bitching bro'!

Its you job to make it happen.Don't blame her for you not getting the makeout.

It's her role to play cat & mouse and push-pull.

Whenever a girl doesn't reciprocate a kiss or make out,you have to be smart enough to tango with her:do something else besides kissing!

Push her off and play hard to get a bit.

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k-loc is right. never go back on your boudaries. after you have tried once to kiss her on the lips andshe doesnt want to, talk a bit and then stop everything and do something boring, like go on your computer. id she doesnt start touching in a littlewhile then you start. if it gets to the same kissing thing then tell her you feel unconfortable doing this because it makes you feel like more but dont be angry or frustrated about it at all.

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Alcohol lowers LMR that's why she slept with other guys when she just met them.


As for you, I think your being a complete prick. Just because a girl does not sleep with you the first time she is over, you cry. It will take her more time to built sexual comfort, especially with no alcohol involved.

As for drinking, you don't have to drink. But your place should still have some alcohol. Most girls like to drink. Especially, ones in college.