I met this girl for three weeks in college now. I don't see her often, but when I do, she keeps showing me these IOI.

She said stuff like "I havent seen you for a while." when I bumped into her at a party.

At dinner with a whole bunch of people, when others were talking about a topic that was irrelevant to me. She asked how it applies to my school. (cuz I am an exchange)

At a rowing practice, she happens to be working out next to me. When I finished, I quickly left...and she followed behind immediately. She even tapped me on the shoulder later and asked me a question.

We go out to these college dance clubs often. I am the best dancer there, but I dont dance really dance with other people. Anyway she is a crazy dancer too, but IMO I dont think she can dance. She just gets really drunk and guys will go up to her and they will start making out. I seen her do that so many times I kinda lost respect for her.

When I see her at the clubs, she will come up to me and dance next to me. But when she does that, I will lose my dancing state. I will feel really uncomfortable (either because she cant dance or shes showing me IOI). Anyway, when this happens, either she leave or I leave. This happened 3 or 4 times.

Our interactions are really short. Cuz I feel very uncomfortable around her (I dont know if she feels the same?) She is somewhat of a social girl so maybe she just does that to everyone.

Anyway, thoughts? I want to either just hook up with her or get to know her better.

She is definately showing you IOIs. you're in college. What I do when I'm talking to a chick in college is "study" with them. It's pretty much like an invitation to get to know each other better. Plus is an easy way to tease here and there and escalate kino if they're struggling with their work. I personally wouldn't take this girl seriously having the fact that she randomdly makes out with guys when she's drunk because if she does that in your presence god knows whatshe does when you're not around. Anwyays one of these days when yousee her tell her you're going to do some homework And to join you. It's like am instant study date. If it fails then ask her some other day. Once you get to a table to study make sure you're next to her so you escalate some kino. And third if you're short around her then come out that box brother and be outgoing. Girls like to be around the party and the fun guy so you must show her that you are that guy.

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I understand what Fasxination is saying but i personaly dont see the need of going through all that. Lets be real: this girl is interested! She gives you IOI, she approches you, etc. Put this in your mind: WHATEVER you invite her for, she WILL do it. If you decide to go out 1 on 1 with her, just "invite" her to join you on something YOU fill confortable doing. I would suggest you do go 1 on 1 with her, and let me tell you, something tells me she will make your job easy by making the move. Just show her that you are not one of those guys that goes to clubs and hooks up with a girl in front of every1.
I was in a similar situation, at a nightclub, and just when we were about to kiss, i wispered in her ear: "take it easy. Im not gonna put up a show here for every1 to see. Let join our friends.". She joined her friends, and about 30 minutes later she was telling me to meet her outside.

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First is to decide if you want to hook up or have a relationship no one here on the forums can tell you what you want.

If she is making out with randoms ask some of your friends or her friends about her behavior try and see if she ONLY makes- out with randoms when your around or all the time. Note: When your asking her friends about her dont be direct with your questions try and extract the information subtly women dont respond well to direct questions. Another way you can tell is when you see her making out with someone is to move to another part of the party out of her sight. optimally try and catch her reaction after the kiss with the random is broken if she is looking to where you were standing shes dealing the jealousy card. Ive used reversable jackets and hoodies taking my shades off or putting them on to change my appearance so the girl really has to LOOK around the room to see where i went.

If you want to hook up with her find a object in your place that could generate her intrest. Then on your next encounter bring up a topic which will allow you to talk about said object. Tell her you want to show her the object while on the way somewhere else. Really sell the objects worth use high energy smiling eye contact etc etc. She will agree and follow you back to your place.

If she is already predesposed to hooking up take her on a "tour" of your place including your bedroom. If she doesnt pounce on you right away or give you heavy IOIs that she wants sex thats ok. Lead her out and just start talking about something else (plan for this contingency) so your not stuck.

Drop a few compliments and negs if neccessary make her jump through your hoops you want her selling herself to you. Once you do that recharge the situation with sexual energy use kino tone of voice smiling eye contact etc etc. Find a way to bring her back to the bedroom now it should be on.

bad part is...i dont know how to start a conversation with her. It's not like I can start with any pick up (when I meet someone), cuz I've known her for a while.

So I think I fucked it up...


2 hours agoMe
[name]!

2 hours agoHer
heya!
how are you?

2 hours agoMe
im good, u?

2 hours agoHer
fine thanks
procrastinating SPAM lol
you got much work?

2 hours agoMe
got an essay

2 hours agoHer
aww
yeah same, but mine's not in for a while yet

2 hours agoMe
what u study again?

2 hours agoHer
did u go informal today? didnt see you at formal
[subj]. you?

2 hours agoMe
[subj]

2 hours agoHer
[subj]?

2 hours agoMe
[subj]

2 hours agoHer
oooooh. awesome

2 hours agoMe
...not really

2 hours agoHer
did know u could combine that with [subj]!

2 hours agoMe
so is anyone going out tn
?

2 hours agoHer
err not that i know of
think most are going out Thurs and Say
*Sat

2 hours agoMe
Sat to?
oh right its halloween

2 hours agoHer
yeah
are u coming out then?

2 hours agoMe
tn?

2 hours agoHer
nooooo
Thurs/Sat

2 hours agoMe
prolly

2 hours agoHer
okay
but you'll need a costume for Saturday!

2 hours agoMe
oh yea...
u have ideas?

2 hours agoHer
umm well i'm going as a witch i think - pretty standard
you could go as a vampire, a ghost is reaaally easy lol, a zombie..

2 hours agoMe
hmm
I was facebook last year
it was a lota fun

2 hours agoHer
what??
but it has to be a Halloween theme lol!

2 hours agoMe
not really

2 hours agoHer
yeah it does - its a halloween themed night lol!

2 hours agoMe
haha mayb its diff here then

2 hours agoHer
yeah

2 hours agoMe
im gonna go as exam papers, super scary isnt it?

2 hours agoHer
lolllllll

2 hours agoMe
lets make plans sometimes

2 hours agoHer
?

2 hours agoMe
uk...eat/drink

2 hours agoHer
i'm confused lol

2 hours agoMe
damn...ur such a dork
lets hang out sometime

2 hours agoHer
thats not very nice!!

2 hours agoMe
dorkkk
hey dorks are cute
have you seen them before?

2 hours agoHer
this is a crap frape!

2 hours agoMe
whats a crap frape

2 hours agoHer
nm

2 hours agoMe
anyway I would like to hang out sometime when ur not busy

2 hours agoHer
lol sure

2 hours agoMe
u dont sound excited

2 hours agoHer
lol - am i supposed to be excited?? haha!

about an hour agoMe
yea?

about an hour agoher
hahaaa



She showed a lot of IOI up until the point when I pretty much asked her to hang out. Thoughts?

this is a facebook conversation btw.

Dude, you need to start feeling more comfortable around women in general. Next time you see her at the club go up to her and dance with her. Then escalate with her and bang her. Done plain and simple.. you can even be FRIENDS with her and meet her social circle..

Well I haven't seen her for over a week. Saw her tonight. I was talking to some random girl, then I left. I turned around and she was chatting up with her.

I am pretty sure this is an IOI. She wanted to approach me and the girl. It just happened that I left.

Anyway I dont know why I always try to avoid her. It's weird.

Then you should and could of merge the two girls... it's an IOI either concious or subconcious.

what i would do when she approached me drunk in the club after all those IOI's i would confidently take her hand, lean in to hear and whisper: "come" if she would ask any question or say something of hesitation like what or why i would simply reply: "because" or something like that showing hard determination and confidence. i would immediately start leading her to my car (or somewhere where we are alone if theres no car, such as a clothes changing cabinet on the beach as one time i did while my friends were waiting me in the car) then there you would instantly start making out with her and sexually escalating without asking any questions. don't get shy or upset in any moment, if on the way she asks you anything why you are going there tell her youre going to have fun, or that she will see, if she at any moment states that she doesn't want to go there or pushes you off act undifferent and go do something else but chances for that are slim.

chances for that to happen are like chances that youre going to bang an unknown hb 10 just by approaching her and telling her you want to fuck. very slim but can happen. Even if she does go away she will get back to you and then you can run different routine on her.

that's the most simplest way how you deal with a high profile slut that shows huge IOI's on you.

Don't spend your time taking this drill hole out to eat something or regular dating shit what you do with worthy girls. You should bang her one night and call her later only, and only when you're in deep crysis.

Make sure you always wear condoms when you have sex, espe fucking cially with a high profile slut like this one.


All in all I believe but what I have read that you have plenty of attractive traits on yourself but you're lacking one, which is by me most important not only in seduction but in all fields of life and that is courage. If you don't have balls to take what you want you won't go far. You gotta be secure in yourself. And that takes time to develop, so start working on that. I was once like that too, scared to look a girl in the eye.. 3 years ago. Now whenever wherever there is an attractive girl which I want you won't see me not approaching her.

good luck

Also, forgot to mention to you. Don't talk to her that much, on facebook and in real life. You're buidling too much rapport, she will put you in a friend zone and she will never want to have sex with you. Next time she opens you on facebook you don't answer her at all, then wait again for her to open you, then make a small talk and excuse yourself. I wouldn't try to arrange with her anything, just go out to a club where she will be 2 weeks from now on after playing some hard to get and run the routine on her, just come to her and take her.

Show little interest in her, very little at all times. Sluts like her get off to this and want you more after that. Don't make out with her in the club she does this with everybody that doesn't guarantee you will bang her.

Your text convo went too long.

Get right to calling her a dork and make plans.

Say goodbye.

Can't tell if she's a slut or a keeper, but good luck.

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If you don't even know which outcome you want, its going to be hard to achieve it. If you want to just hook up with her, its easy, get her drunk and dance and make out. That's obviously her pattern.

If you want to get to know her better, ask her to go with you to something that gives you a chance to talk, and is also fun. Comedy club is a good choice. Laughing together is always fun, and if the act sucks, you can always heckle the comedian or make jokes privately together about how much he sucks. There are also usually drinks, and they expect people at the tables to do a certain amount of talking, so there's no pressure to be quiet like a movie theater, and no drunken dancing like at a bar.

Since you called her a "Crush" though, I'm guessing even though you didn't say it, that what you REALLY want is a longer term romantic relationship with her, and you probably came to study pickup so you could "get" her. If that's not you, then I apologize, its just a pattern I've seen a lot.

If it rings true, however, then you need to open your eyes because a girl like that isn't ready to give you the kind of commitment you probably expect at this point in her life. Helping someone to change is POSSIBLE, but its a serious commitment on your part. Imagine, you've dated her, you've bedded her, but she still wants to go out and drink and dance, and when she's drunk, she makes out with guys she dances with, and it wont be YOU because YOU don't dance with people. So at the very least you would have to learn to like dancing with people.

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For you are CRUNCHY, and good with milk. --

I think when she said "im confused" it was probably a chance for you to plough through with your idea of "hanging out together". You should've just led with "What's to be confused about? You, me and something to do. ", calling her a dork is straight out of David DeAngelo's work and I am not sure you understand why he uses it the way he does.

Anyway, this doesn't seem like THE END to me. Just remember next time to let her talk more, but direct the conversation according to your like and also, instead of using a general "Let's hang out", ask her out for coffee/drinks. Something concrete to let her think of.

Good luck.

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