I've noticed a lot of girls I approach in person tend to neg themselves during our first meetings. These are typically girls in the HB6-8 range who I would describe as "just confident enough to be confident about showing their lack of confidence." Would you all agree that the best response to a girl negging herself is to try to convince her the neg isn't true?

Second, feminists are hyper-sensitive to anything remotely resembling a neg. But some feminists are still hot. It really kills my game, makes it difficult to flirt...any suggestions?

On the first point, don't focus on the neg they gave themselves. Just move the conversation forward. Don't acknowledge it. They are seeking validation that it's not true. If you think they are lacking confidence then compliment them on something else later on.


On the second point. If they get offended, then you're not negging right. A neg is not an insult, it's a neutral or ambiguous comment.

If the girl negs herself, it's probably some kind of shit test. She's negging herself to see how you respond, if you disagree and talk her up, surely you lower your value

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lol- she is gaming you!!! she is trying to force a IOI, just ignore it, or playfully go with it.

If she's negging herself then she's likely seeking validation from you. Don't qualify her to yourself. If you do feel the need to qualify her, aim it at her friends or a hypothetical "random man". EG "I just don't think I attract guys like my friends do" respond "that's only a problem if you want to attract guys your friends do" or something similar.

As for feminists, they're harder to game. They have bitch shields up from the start. They may not even need negging (after all it's not essential to getting a #/fc). Make her qualify herself without a neg. EG if she seems bored in a club or wherever "So, you're the life and soul of the party" with a playful smile. If she seems aggressive towards the issue of feminism just AVOID the subject and do other things. Tell her you'll show her a cool game and run a routine. Remember to constantly recalibrate depending on her reactions to things as she will probably respond better to certain stuff (eg maybe not a good idea to run the line "so what have you got aside from your looks?").

I agree that you have to calibrate depending on the type of woman, but just because she may be a self-described feminist doesn't mean she won't have the same reaction to a well-delivered neg that most women do. The difference is she will feign more displeasure with you (in the form of shit tests).

At the end of the day, even the most ardent feminist still wants to be with a higher status man. She can deny it til the cows come home, but it's human nature. A well-delivered neg (by that I mean it has right timing, calibration, and isn't an insult) is a way of boosting your status relative to hers. Be confident in their purpose, don't apologize for using them, and ultimately you will be rewarded for it, no matter what kind of faux indignation she gives you.

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