So a little about me. 20, student, UK gaming for 2 weeks now, mixed results.

OK so I've recently had a bit of a rethink about what I'm doing and have decided to completely drop anything canned as people can see through it a mile away especially if alcohol is involved.

I've figured how to work uni groups well and have isolation down. The problem is switching the conversation with the girl from comfort to attraction. I'm getting her to contribute to conversations, neging when appropriate and trying to build kino.

Does anyone know how to shift conversation effectively, I'm controlling the frame but just can't get it going the right direction. Or do I even need this? part of me thinks that If I'm getting IoI's and have isolated I should just go in for the kill.]

Thanks in a advance.

R&B

Just trying to clarify before I respond. You're trying to switch from comfort TO attraction? Usually goes the other way around.

Also, if you are getting IOI's, then she is already attracted, and if you've isolated her, then you are switching to comfort. Just keep a good conversation and continue to escalate with your kino.

Posting this felt wrong for me... I know the shift goes in reverse but I'm struggling to not seem too frank in a group of friends (bearing in mind I'm the only one of us who's familiar with "gaming") It's just been easier to isolated and attract after conversation so to avoid friends cock-blocking... maybe I'm just being too obvious?

R&B

Well first thing is first. I hope you don't mean your friends are cock-blocking, because that is UNACCEPTABLE. If you are refering to HER friends, then you just need to disqualify yourself or her (via negs). Remember don't be insulting, light-hearted is the key here. You are just teasing.

Chances are you are probably just thinking you are "too obvious", when you aren't. If one of her friends does call you out on hitting on a girl just say something along the lines of, "You mean HER? No way, she's not my type." Or any of the other thousands of Disqualifiers.

Also, try to remember. If you have gotten a girl to isolate with you, she is already attracted. You just need to keep the conversation interesting and stimulating. By escalating kino, you will build sexual tension and she will continue to be attracted. Hope this answers your question.

I also have friends with no knowledge of 'gaming' and pua. They really can be annoying and some of the worse cockblocks.

In my opinion, if she agrees to let you isolate her, you are already winning.
Who cares if it's then 'too obvious' she must feel comfortable to talk to you alone.

Push that kino a bit more, you're right, just need to go in for the kill, maybe not just dive in and kiss her but get some serious kino escalation going and land that kiss.

Yea feel you're right about the disqualifier stuff, I'm currently using role reversal e.g. "You think I'm after you? Wow all you girls are so one track minded. Sometimes I feel you look at me like a piece of meat". I'll take the advice on board .

I'm using styles 5 questions game to my advantage to confirm attraction, (not forcing it though, I hate canned stuff usually). I think confidence to make a move physically let me down that night. I'll learn from that.

As for the friends situation I've taught my friends some stuff via advice on nights out, I think as it turns out there was a lack of communication between us that night and we where after the same target.

In short I now know to: Inform friends, use disqualifiers, take more risks building kino.

Thanks for the feedback guys, I appreciate it.

R&B