ok so im opening in a student club (uk) on the dance floor with 'what do you consider cheating in a relationship?' and i get the attention from the opener most of the time sometimes not.
After that i DHV with 'OMG you look so much like this girl i met in Thailand...(more dhv spikes, adventurous/travel with women) but after that there like ok great! and i seem too loose there attention. i mean i could just plough through my material but i want to have there attention locked in.
do you think dance-floor game is more non verbal? if not what am i doing wrong?

many thanks in advance.

could be alot of things, here are some things you should field test,

energy level, (how much energy are you going in with/maintaining higher your energy at night the easier it will be to open and hook, harder it will be to close)

how much you touch, how quickly you get really close (further then the good old safe zones such as knees and shoulders and hands)

how you are standing in relation to the girls, what your body is doing, are you mirroring them, does it seem like your always thinking about leaving, or are you just hooked in to them body language wise right away and not being honest with intentions (interested body language and dis-interested verbals = incongruent, interested body language and interested verbals = congruent)

how are your clothes/style, are you dressed like a stereotype of a guy that a girl would want to sleep with, or are you wearing some plain ass jeans and a t-shirt shit

how are your actual looks and grooming, are you physically fit, are you getting tanned, do you have a good looking haircut, do you have facial hair

do some experimenting, for style a good way to find a look for yourself, is go to club that fits your personality, and scope out the hottest looking girl you can find that has a guy with her, check what he is wearing, now you have an idea,

now that is all the outer stuff,

on the inside, consider, what is going through my head when i approach, am i thinking what do i say next, what do i do next, this probably wont work, here i go, or am i thinking, HHAHAHAHAHA (HAPPINESS NOT THINKING), TALK TO THESE GIRLS GOD IM A FUCKING PIMP HOW CAN THEY RESIST THIS SHIT, lets go mess around with some people and make some enemies hahaha,

just think about what is going on in your head, the better you feel, and the less that is actually going on in your head and the more you are just on auto-pilot in a positive mood, the better,

how are you responding to negative/neutral responses, are you interpreting alot of things as negative?, or do you have delusions that everything is an IOI and the girl is just testing always, you are too fucking cool to have her not like you, she is just nervous because she doesn't know you and doesn't want to look/feel like a slut,

do you re-frame negative limiting beliefs in your head, and then test them out to dispel your beliefs or do you just lose motivation and stop approaching (for example you open get blown out, go open again get blown out, go open again get blown out, then stop approaching and assume your ugly/opener doesn't work, or do you just keep plowing on through opening more sets trying to get into positive mood and make it work until it does)


all of these factors need to be experimented with, in the past i found the best way to hold attention in clubs, was hitting sets being direct and honest with intentions semi high energy, try to get a few laughs and get very close very quick, (i like hugging and holding hips fast), but you will have to find your own way as clubs are not really my thing

ive got semi high energy and im in close pretty fast, in all honesty i did get a few number closes and a K close last night, and my mental game isn't really affected from a rejection i can just turn around and open another set. After alot of work on my inner game im a pretty confident guy now.

one thing you said stands out thought when i open to start with i have to shout my opener and its a pretty long opener (getting an opinion) which makes me pretty invested in them from the start. i did have better results when i force an IOI and then dance of/move in pretty fast.

would you recommend short and sweet to the point openers such as 'wow you look so adorable i just had to come talk to you' over 'opinion' openers in loud clubs? then following on the DHV/push pull

no man, no canned shit, just walk up, say what you want, if it is truly in your head, say that, and just believe in it, you can use some cool tricks like time constraints and preframing, but as long as you are being 100% honest with how you feel and expressing that, then you are doing it right, just go out, have some fun, make some girls horny, and try to make out with them

cool respect man