This is all so helpful!

I normally approach girls who are off the dance floor where I can talk to them, I'm quite strong at this. However, I was out sarging last night and thought I would try the dance floor scene. I quickly realised that I had no real idea what to do. I approached using the 3 second rule but after that I was stuffed. I didn't really know how to open and had no idea what sort of dancing to do. Sometimes I think I went in with too much energy and sometimes with too little. Needless to say I got shot down a number of times, I didn't mind however, I knew it was all part of the nearing curve.

I shall definitely check out youtube for dance moves!

Thankx

HIKE

This shit is golden bro!!

Its something Ive been thinking about for a while now...

I can dance fairly well but trying to open a girl on the dancefloor has always been pretty difficult for me.

I try to work off the floor but normally its barren when a good track comes on cuz like you say, 90% of the girls are on the floor and its a great opportunity to get their attention. You really dont have to dance too well, you just need a good attitude. Problem I always run into though is I tend to scare the girls off for some reason when I try to dance w/ them. Its def something Id like to improve on

Exactly. Getting shot down happens. And it still happens to me on the dancefloor.

But so what? It's her loss. I usually can find myself a decent girl to dance w/, within a minute or two of getting rejected to dance so I'm not even worried at all.

As the night goes on, it's usually a lot easier for me because other girls have quickly realized that I'm just out there to have fun and I'm a great dancer.

The solution is calibration. But calibration takes practice, which comes from experience.

Some girls are wild and crazy and they like crazy moves. Usually the crazy blondes love that shit.

Other girls are more insecure about their dancing so you cannot outdance them by too much.

In addition, make sure your moves aren't just weird in general. You should look into the mirror and see if it's weird. If you can't tell, upload them online and let others critique you.

My general rule is to go and try to spin the girl. If she can't even spin, then obviously she sucks at dancing (no offense) and for me, isn't worth my time. But then again, if you couldnt care less than just grind with her but you're not going to have much fun.

Thanks guys for the questions. I always entertain new questions, comments, suggestions and any other feedback on this thread so keep 'em coming!

So today I wanted to share with you guys why persistence on the dancefloor pays off. You can check out an FR that occurred recently for which I was persist on:

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Yea I was watching the Adam Lyons video late last night and i saw the spin move and dip which I saw worked brilliantly....and it brought me back to this past Xmas when I actually did something similar on my GF in a Cajun bar back home in New Orleans.

I was a bit tipsy and was trying to show off a few cajun dance moves for a few out of town friends. I was just screwing around but I totally just got in a groove. I started spinning my GF and then proceeded w/ a few slow dips w/ intense eye contact and a small kiss. We were dancing for a solid 15 min or so.

Well after we got off the floor and sat back down my GF whispers in my ear 'Every fucking girl in this bar wants you soooo bad right now!'

I kinda brushed it off but as we got back up I did realize that ALL eyes were on us....even the HB bartenders!!

After another bout of dancing I return to the rest of the group. My buddies GF (HB8...my GF is more of a HB6.5) just instantly starts chatting me up. She wanted me to take her out on the floor but I declined as it wasnt a great idea considering my GF and her BF were just sitting there eyeing us talking....Regardless....I def see what ur talking about...

Anyways....Cheers to the spin move and I can def see how it could work w/ any kind of music....

Ill report back and let u know how it goes...

Hi there just wondered if I could get some advise from you on the whole clubbing situation...
I go clubbing regularly every weekend, and I dont mean to get big headed but I am good looking yet the last couple of times I have been clubbing I havent had any proper interaction with hb's whilst my wingmen have been pulling 5 or 6 girls at a time on the dance floor with kiss closes and number closes. My wings tell me that i have the right moves and style etc, but its just that i expect women to come to me, is there any advise you can give me on how to change it round. I think I over think the situation too e.g. "does she want to dance with me, she hasn't looked at me, has she got a bf etc etc" thus causing me to panic and loose confidence and my outer image lol. Any help would be much appreciated
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Unfortunately, this has less to do with dancefloor issues and more to do with inner game issues.

My advice to you is try adopting this type of mentality:

"If I dont go after the girls, then I am not being a man. A man goes after what he wants. A scared pansy waits for money to rain from the sky"

Besides, a lot of girls that do want to dance with me sometimes dont even look at me. They're so scared themselves. But they're girls. You can't be the girl in this situation. You got to be a man!

Even if she has a bf, well obviously he isn't on the dancefloor so go dance with her. Nothing at all wrong with that.

Hope this helps.

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Posted this on another blog, thought it might help as well....

"You can always use "Pivots" if you will for a kind of homebase and dance in and out of a group of gals so you aren't just sittin there on your own. Or have pivot "try" and pull you from a set to dance and deny her slightly and proceed with game."

When I isolate, sometimes the girl will slow down or suddenly dance less "into the song" because the next song she just isn't feelin'. This is usually when I say,
"man, I'm not feelin this song at all, are you?" or "do you know this song?"
most likely she says yeah I aint feelin it or no, don't know this song,
and then I say, "Yeah, catch a breather with me and we'll head back in" or something along those lines....this usually comes after already opening with a basic line as AZ mentioned and dancing a bit for rapport.

As of right now, I am better off on the dancefloor than off it, prob because my "game" isn't quite as advanced linguisticually yet with any routines and techniques and such off of it. wierd.

It's always cool to have a "pivot" pull up your shirt to show off your hard earned 6 pack if you've got it too.

AZ, what do you usually do with two HB10's that are stuck together freakin and you want a piece? They are usually owning the dance floor and all eyes.

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awsome post guys, thanks. well sadly I still don't understand how to approach. I know that I have to do the work, but if she is dancing with 1 or 2 other girls, what should I do, go in the middle and try to show-off, start mimicking a girl and grind with her, take her hand and turn her around, wait for eye contact and get in or tell her from behind the "normally people dance to the beat" (in a funny way) ... thanks for any help from you guys.

I also posted this somewhere else...hope it helps....

I have tried just walking up to a girl (with open spot on left or right shoulder side) and while standing shoulder to shoulder say, "You feelin it?!" while pretending to be trying to catch the beat of the song and picking up speed to catch up to hers....She usually says something like, "yep" and then it's on!.

You can also add in a "I'm just gettin started, I'll follow your lead until I catch up/warm up."

Somewhere in there just throw in the hip bump and off ye goes. Most times a girl who's that in the mood to dance will usually be a good mood to have fun with you. If she says something else....then just Neg her.

Or I even just say, "I'm the best dancer here, think you can keep up?!" (even if I'm/Your not) then do a funny/outrageous/smooth move. (c&f/DHV accomplished). and she'll usually respond with a move of her own...or laugh and then you kino with a slight hand to hand move or something of that sort....just read her and calibrate to see if she's down for advancement....or slowly dance backing up and/or neg with any shit she gives. Sometimes...you just have to take a chance....

I've tried,
"you can't dance alone to this song, it's dangerous, let me help you out".
"I've got a new move I wanna show you"
...and after a dance or freak (with careful calibration), "let's make everyone here jealous" then wink while you've established eyecontact.

I too prefer approaching from the front, open with a nice, "I like this song"...Her:"me too".....then go at it....isolate....initiate....intimate...dadad...

I've also just jumped right in for one of my favorite songs and went right into a group of girls' dance circle busting out smooth sensual moves on beat and on cue....somewhere, some girl is takin notice. It's a great icebreaker and it's harder for the girls to dissipate if your not really targeting one of their friends, instead they enjoy your energy and are waiting to see what you'll do next....I've never had a group all leave, because then they'll leave their friends to me, which you know doesn't really happen.

They say that how you dance is a reflection of how you are in bed. And why not, you dance you move, you sex, you move.

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okay this is interesting, i made a thread in the mid game about my scenario with dancing at a pub. She complimented my dancing skills, i grinded abit at the front, however she left to grind with some other guy. So i danced and grinded abit with her friend. I got her number later when it was the 2 of them.

Great thread man.
Could you write some more about approaching on the dancefloor..
thanks

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Hey guys, sorry about not updating soon enough.

I've been swamped by my personal development students, my other businesses, schoolwork and amusing day 2s.
I would outcompete them with 2 of my girls, who perhaps aren't the hottest chicks at the venue but then sooner or later I'm going to be catching all eyes cause we all rock at our dancing, hopefully luring the 2 mega-hot chicks into our circle.

They would look stupid if they didn't join us.
I will definitely get back with more types of approaches on the dancefloor, but as this thread is posted in the Mid-Game section, I will not cover this in too much depth.

I did mention though that having pivots are probably the easiest way, and if you dont have one then you should "instant-pivot". Of course, there are other ways which I shall explain in due time.

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hey thanks for the help, and lets see what other methods you got in secret men, I'd love to know how to approach in all situations... well most of them