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 Post subject: I need insight!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:31 am 
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Quick info about me:
I play "natural game," I just have a shit ton of confidence. I don't really do routines except games like 5-lies, cube and shit. However, I am not a good speaker and story teller yet but I make up for that shit with confidence. 6'2" asian alpha male blah blah blah.

Be ready, this is long...

So I have two classes with this fob(recently immigrated) HB# (I don't even like to think of them as hot babes and I don't like to put a numerical value on them because theres more to girl than just looks... but its your lingo). In one class, the professor sort of made semi-arranged seating. But in my second class, we sit wherever. We have a lot of open seats in that class but she decides to sit next to me twice. First time, I just didn't feel like gaming so I said nothing to her and rushed home after class (I hit traffic...).

Second time, was a Thursday and I was ready to go out drinking so I thought I would open her up. I opened her by asking about the essay from the first class and how I don't know how to do it (which is true but I could have asked my other friends from that class). Anyways, she shuffles through her papers like trying to figure it out quick but she eventually saids she doesn't know. However, she continues by saying that those two girls over there are also from our first class, which I didn't know.

So after class, I asked her, "so which twin are you?" (yes, she is a twin and her sister is in both of those classes I am in with her. As you can also see, I don't think chronologically, which is why i am not a good story teller yet) She is a chinese fob, so she says 'my sister's name is Vanessa'. I reply, "no no no, what's your name?" She gives me a big smile and says 'my name is Serena.' Then I ask her, "those are the girls from our 145 class right?" She's says, "yeah." So I am packing up my shit and getting ready to go talk to these other two girls from class but she says, 'hold on, let me go ask for you.' At this point, I kind of vibed that this chick is digging me. She goes, they speak in chinese (no, im not chinese) and comes back and says, 'they also don't know how to do the paper. But we are going to ask the professor. Do you want to exchange numbers?' I was like sure, gimme your phone but she's like ill give you my number. So she calls it out and im inputing the numbers in my phone and I say im going to call you after Im already calling her. She says its dead, which explains straight to voicemail.

Next day, I text her asking about the paper, replacing her name with cutie. She replies that the prof. didnt respond yet. 30 mins after her response, still replacing her name with cutie I ask her if she could 'lmk when he does.' 8 hours later she texts me asking about the cancellation of class. (she could have asked her friends in the same class but she asks me) I reply, ya your sister is right we have no class. She replies, still asking more questions bout the class. I was folding laundry so I reply to her 30 mins later... then radio silence for 3 days. I text her "what did sushi A say to sushi B?" she replies "What??" I reply, "Wasabi. What are you doing?" radio silence again. So my text game isn't weak but when I text her, she isnt playful or anything? Is it like a language/culture barrier? Is she not feeling it anymore? Should I move on from this prospect?


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 Post subject: Re: I need insight!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:58 am 
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She replies, still asking more questions bout the class. I was folding laundry so I reply to her 30 mins later... then radio silence for 3 days. I text her "what did sushi A say to sushi B?" she replies "What??" I reply, "Wasabi. What are you doing?" radio silence again. So my text game isn't weak but when I text her, she isnt playful or anything? Is it like a language/culture barrier? Is she not feeling it anymore? Should I move on from this prospect?
That joke made me cringe when I read it. English isn't here primary language, so what makes you think she'd get that joke? On top of that, it's a racial joke. Do you think that would make her feel good and warm and fuzzy about you? Did she seem like that when you were in person? You have to remember the context. This is text, its a lot different than being in person, you're not fact to face.... 90% of com is non-verbal.

You can keep trying, but it seems like she just thinks of you as a friend.

I often get same day make outs with women. I think my closure on that is about 90%. Some of the virgins reject my advances on the first date. Ok well whatever. How do I get this? Because in the moment, the woman feels me trying to fuck her brains out no matter what. She feels my desire for her and therefore feels great about kissing. One of my last dates allowed me to grope/slap her ass, bite her neck and graze her tits with my hands for 20 min before she got in her car and left.

The next day when I text her about what I want to do to her insides, she doesn't respond. That's probably because she has time to think instead of feel my desire, and realizes what a risk she is taking with someone that will do almost anything to get her back to my place on the first date. I probably do it all the time which is true.

This is just what you've done. Not only that but via text it's harder to trigger emotions.


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 Post subject: Re: I need insight!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:34 am 
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She replies, still asking more questions bout the class. I was folding laundry so I reply to her 30 mins later... then radio silence for 3 days. I text her "what did sushi A say to sushi B?" she replies "What??" I reply, "Wasabi. What are you doing?" radio silence again. So my text game isn't weak but when I text her, she isnt playful or anything? Is it like a language/culture barrier? Is she not feeling it anymore? Should I move on from this prospect?
That joke made me cringe when I read it. English isn't here primary language, so what makes you think she'd get that joke? On top of that, it's a racial joke. Do you think that would make her feel good and warm and fuzzy about you? Did she seem like that when you were in person? You have to remember the context. This is text, its a lot different than being in person, you're not fact to face.... 90% of com is non-verbal.

You can keep trying, but it seems like she just thinks of you as a friend.

I often get same day make outs with women. I think my closure on that is about 90%. Some of the virgins reject my advances on the first date. Ok well whatever. How do I get this? Because in the moment, the woman feels me trying to fuck her brains out no matter what. She feels my desire for her and therefore feels great about kissing. One of my last dates allowed me to grope/slap her ass, bite her neck and graze her tits with my hands for 20 min before she got in her car and left.

The next day when I text her about what I want to do to her insides, she doesn't respond. That's probably because she has time to think instead of feel my desire, and realizes what a risk she is taking with someone that will do almost anything to get her back to my place on the first date. I probably do it all the time which is true.

This is just what you've done. Not only that but via text it's harder to trigger emotions.
Thanks I see where you are coming from but I think you missed a couple details. First, I am asian too so I don't think she will take it as a racist joke. I agree with you that the sushi text isn't exactly setting the mood but it was just a simple conversational starter. But overall great insight! thanks buddy

Do anyone with experience with foreigners or specifically fobs want to chime in?

Yes obviously, I kind of like this girl but if she is not in it, then shes not in it.


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 Post subject: Re: I need insight!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:44 am 
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Update: friendzoned... T.T close it up


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 Post subject: Re: I need insight!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:47 am 
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So she does all she can to put herself in a position of being seduced by you, and your best go is "replacing her name with cutie"?
I can only imagine how wet she was when you did that...

See dude, you did exactly what 99% of other dudes would have done. Except you gave her a nickname because you read on some forum it's the proper thing to do. It's a start, but it's no where near enough. She sat next to you. She gave you her number. Did you really care about that essay? Do you think she cared about the essay? No on cares about the essay dude.

Your texts' priority should've been flirting. Not sneaking yourself into conversation by bringing up school as a common ground. Never even mind the sushi joke. Personally I found it funny. Stupid, but funny. That has little to do with anything since how funny she may have found it depends on her own perception of humor.

You call yourself an "asian alpha male", but your actions - or lack there of - hardly back that up.
Had you been as confident as you claim you would've tried seducing the woman who wanted to be seduced by you. Instead, you played it safe and friendzoned yourself in the process.

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 Post subject: Re: I need insight!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:24 pm 
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So she does all she can to put herself in a position of being seduced by you, and your best go is "replacing her name with cutie"?
I can only imagine how wet she was when you did that...

See dude, you did exactly what 99% of other dudes would have done. Except you gave her a nickname because you read on some forum it's the proper thing to do. It's a start, but it's no where near enough. She sat next to you. She gave you her number. Did you really care about that essay? Do you think she cared about the essay? No on cares about the essay dude.

Your texts' priority should've been flirting. Not sneaking yourself into conversation by bringing up school as a common ground. Never even mind the sushi joke. Personally I found it funny. Stupid, but funny. That has little to do with anything since how funny she may have found it depends on her own perception of humor.

You call yourself an "asian alpha male", but your actions - or lack there of - hardly back that up.
Had you been as confident as you claim you would've tried seducing the woman who wanted to be seduced by you. Instead, you played it safe and friendzoned yourself in the process.

I have a guide on texting. You may pick up a few pointers here and there. Give it a read and feel free to ask any questions should you have any.
HAHAHA zayummm... trying to put a brother down after one failure? I didn't know pick up had a 100% success rate.
From experience, starting off the text where the conversation left off has worked for me before. I understand how it can be seen as "safe" from your perspective but I was just going off experience.

But usually when I freeze someone out, they usually become more responsive. This chick, if I freeze her out, she becomes non-responsive? Can someone explain this one to me.

New Update: Abridged
Master P: You want to work on paper together?
Big Eyes: Sure but what are we going to write about?
Master P: Up to you. My friends said the paper is open to interpretation.
Big Eyes: Okay, lets do same year
Big Eyes: Why don't you ask your friends to do it too like do the same year

(At this point, I found out where I messed up. I didn't convey my intentions clearly enough. Yes RC, you called it, I might have friendzoned myself...) 2.5 hours later, I don't text and drive

Master P: I wanted to work with you so I can get to know you better. If you don't want to, then ima stop wasting my time.
1.5 hours later
Big Eyes: "Sorry I was sleeping just now.." (obv. eng. not her first lang.)
Big Eyes: "I was just curious why didnt u ask ur friends too since i was not very understand for the essay work..."
1.5 hours later
Big Eyes: "Well.. I didn't know u wanted to work with me was because u wanted to get to know me more, I'm really sorry about it..."

Next morning
Master P: I just woke up. Wtf? There is nothing to be sorry about... So do you want to work together or no? I cant really understand your emotions from text.
(Yes, the paper does matter. I don't want to do the research all by myself)

Radio silence

I honestly don't fucking know where I am with this girl...

Final Update: She says she has boyfriend. Whether true or not, not important, she's not in it. GG, I guess I have to look forward to my date with the filipino chick who actually speaks English.


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 Post subject: Re: I need insight!
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:03 am 
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HAHAHA zayummm... trying to put a brother down after one failure? I didn't know pick up had a 100% success rate.
From experience, starting off the text where the conversation left off has worked for me before. I understand how it can be seen as "safe" from your perspective but I was just going off experience.
No. Look at it as tough love. Putting people down is not the purpose of this forum or community in general. And no, there's no such things as 100% success rate.

Anyway, starting a conversation where it was left off is fine as long as the conversation is fun. Point is you want to stand out, and that hardly happens when you talk about school work. Would you be excited if you were interested in some chick and all she ever texts you is related to homework?
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But usually when I freeze someone out, they usually become more responsive. This chick, if I freeze her out, she becomes non-responsive? Can someone explain this one to me.
When you take away someones' attention, they start wanting it back. To some degree. That degree varies.
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New Update: Abridged
Master P: You want to work on paper together?
Big Eyes: Sure but what are we going to write about?
Master P: Up to you. My friends said the paper is open to interpretation.
Big Eyes: Okay, lets do same year
Big Eyes: Why don't you ask your friends to do it too like do the same year

(At this point, I found out where I messed up. I didn't convey my intentions clearly enough. Yes RC, you called it, I might have friendzoned myself...) 2.5 hours later, I don't text and drive
Yeah.
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Master P: I wanted to work with you so I can get to know you better. If you don't want to, then ima stop wasting my time.
1.5 hours later
Big Eyes: "Sorry I was sleeping just now.." (obv. eng. not her first lang.)
Big Eyes: "I was just curious why didnt u ask ur friends too since i was not very understand for the essay work..."
1.5 hours later
Big Eyes: "Well.. I didn't know u wanted to work with me was because u wanted to get to know me more, I'm really sorry about it..."

Next morning
Master P: I just woke up. Wtf? There is nothing to be sorry about... So do you want to work together or no? I cant really understand your emotions from text.
(Yes, the paper does matter. I don't want to do the research all by myself)

Radio silence

I honestly don't fucking know where I am with this girl...

Final Update: She says she has boyfriend. Whether true or not, not important, she's not in it. GG, I guess I have to look forward to my date with the filipino chick who actually speaks English.
That's why we encourage people to make their intentions known. Not caveman style, obviously, but they have to be let known. It saves you both some headaches, and some precious time at that.

Good luck with the filipino girl.

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