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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:29 pm 
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I have just discovered this community about a few weeks ago and I can feel my game improving by the day. I used to think that attraction was black and white and because of this, I never developed attractive conversation skills.

After working on it for a few weeks, I felt I have improved a lot and my conversations with women are a lot more upbeat and flirtatious. I am really good at A2/negging, and girls seem to love it when I take the piss out of them. I have about 5-10 girls at university who I am practicing on and i'm getting pretty good IOI's from all of them. (Non-related Question: Is a girl basically agreeing with everything you say an IOI or is it that she's just got a weak frame and will agree with whatever anyone will say)

Anyways, the problem is that i'm getting all of these IOI's and I don't know what to do next. There are two things that I definitely need to improve on and I just don't know where to start. Since you all probably know a lot more about this stuff than me, im hoping you know the answer:

Qualification - I know that this is mighty important, but, it just feels so forced when I do it. I done it once and it felt just horrible. I'm almost certain she knew something was up as I went from high energy and funny to boring as fuck (Me"What do you do for fun" Her"I like going out with friends" Me"That's awsome, blah blah insert AFC crap here"). How do I qualify without forcing it and keeping it flirtatious.

Kino - I'm decent at kino when im in a nightclub after having a few drinks down my throat, but in day game, it just feels so fucking awkward. (e.g. Me*taps shoulder Her*awkward stare Me"Look at that" Her Thinking* Why the fuck did he just tap my shoulder to show me something boring as fuck. He must be pretty needy.

Thanks for any help guys. Kino and Qualifying, once I get these things sorted, ill be an attraction phase beast :).

Also, Question on Comfort stage - After reading this stage, it basically sound like you go on like her gay best friend for 6 hours to make her "comfortable". I can't get my head around how you are possible supposed to keep the spark alive whilst going on like this. Can someone please fill me in on what your trying to achieve in the comfort stage.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:03 pm 
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Pick up has been updated since the 'A1 - C3' stuff. I guess some people around here still do use it and will defend it till the death lol.

However, let me tell you, If you're getting IOI's you should scrap that gamey bollocks in your head and just ask to them to go on a date with you/ or go to home with you depending on the environment.

Girl's that are attracted tend to qualify themselves automatically anyway.

When you're on the date, you should try to make the move and and at least hold her hand by the end of it. (This is the biggest 'escalation you will ever need) If she lets you hold her hand, she will probably let you kiss or even take her home since it's pretty obvious that she digs you.

I guess we all go through the gamey stage of one's PU journey, but in a few years time you will laugh at your self and the 'structure' . Pick up is very messy and really isn't a step by step process in my opinion, so many factors and variables are involved.

I missed so many opportunities to take girls home because I was thinking too much about the next step in 'the structure' when in fact she was ready to go from the very start. Doh!

Don't forget to lead an attractive life, don't neglect your studies/work , become a well rounded well attractive person so that you are in the "attraction stage" from the very start.

Your goal is to do most of the work before you have even approached a girl. I'm not saying don't approach girls till you're the perfect human being ha , all i'm saying is just work on yourself and the approaching gets easier and easier.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO WAIT 7 HOURS TO GET LAID - last week, i made eye contact with a girl, got her number, and when I went to sleep at the end of the night, she called me up and booti-called me. I didn't do any qualification or comfort or any of that crap. Granted, I have worked a lot on my myself, I'm in shape, feel great, career is good, I dress super sexy, getting sex is pretty easy compared to when I was a virgin when i discovered game. 'Pick up' can be that simple, or you can make it complicated. Its your choice though,

Goodluck.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:37 pm 
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Pick up has been updated since the 'A1 - C3' stuff. I guess some people around here still do use it and will defend it till the death lol.

However, let me tell you, If you're getting IOI's you should scrap that gamey bollocks in your head and just ask to them to go on a date with you/ or go to home with you depending on the environment.

Girl's that are attracted tend to qualify themselves automatically anyway.

When you're on the date, you should try to make the move and and at least hold her hand by the end of it. (This is the biggest 'escalation you will ever need) If she lets you hold her hand, she will probably let you kiss or even take her home since it's pretty obvious that she digs you.

I guess we all go through the gamey stage of one's PU journey, but in a few years time you will laugh at your self and the 'structure' . Pick up is very messy and really isn't a step by step process in my opinion, so many factors and variables are involved.

I missed so many opportunities to take girls home because I was thinking too much about the next step in 'the structure' when in fact she was ready to go from the very start. Doh!

Don't forget to lead an attractive life, don't neglect your studies/work , become a well rounded well attractive person so that you are in the "attraction stage" from the very start.

Your goal is to do most of the work before you have even approached a girl. I'm not saying don't approach girls till you're the perfect human being ha , all i'm saying is just work on yourself and the approaching gets easier and easier.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO WAIT 7 HOURS TO GET LAID - last week, i made eye contact with a girl, got her number, and when I went to sleep at the end of the night, she called me up and booti-called me. I didn't do any qualification or comfort or any of that crap. Granted, I have worked a lot on my myself, I'm in shape, feel great, career is good, I dress super sexy, getting sex is pretty easy compared to when I was a virgin when i discovered game. 'Pick up' can be that simple, or you can make it complicated. Its your choice though,

Goodluck.
Excellent post.

I like the structure at the minute because before I was clueless and I can see improvement based upon this structure. Once I get to a point where I no-longer need it anymore, I will do away with it.

I like knowing that pick-up isn't all about looks and that most girls don't like you before she gets to know you. Every girl that I have been with before this basically shot me a look from across the room, we made out without saying a word to each other and then had sex. My game was pretty awful and I feel it is improving a lot following this formula... for now.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:03 pm 
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Yeah i was a nerd with it too, I guess you need to experience the pros and cons of it.

goodluck

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:49 pm 
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Can someone please fill me in on what your trying to achieve in the comfort stage.

imagine you are at home and relaxing. well this is what you do, you go with a girl and relax with her. and also build trust. six hours for comfort? never heard of that.

on a date there is simple structure, comfort, trust, dhv-increase your value for her, light sexual escallation

then you move to a place of sex

i'm sure it's not a current pua method but some day it may be since its obvious to do it

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