First i want to thank CharmingRogue for the straw-man technique, it was very effective.
I just recently signed up but i been following the forum for the last weeks and you guy got some great stuff.

So there's this girl in my class that i been talking to a bit for the last month , and before the semester ended, i got her # and we hung out a bit as a group(a few students in our marketing classes).
eventually i found out she has a bf so i been using bf destroyers to screw the guy over.
all is going good as we hung out alone a few times, and i got to meet her parents and i really hit it off with the dad because we had similar interests.
but the thing is, i was really into this girl and i jump at the chance to help her sell her iPhone on craigslist and help her get a new phone so we were like in the car for like 4 hours and when she told me about her bf, i was making her question their relationship. so all this time, we hung out like 2x solo and her bf has been getting pretty tight. last Sunday, after i went to visit her at her house for a bit to help her dad with something, that night, they broke up.
and she texts me 11pm that night
HB:Hey!
me:Sup?
Hb:well, We broke up
me:=[ are you okay?
Hb: it was mutual though, yeah, i mean i was sad, but i think it was best

so i told her i was at the bar with some friends and if she wanted me to drop by later.
and she was like and she'll give me more details later.
i kinda ignore her after that and texted like 3 hours later when i got home that we'll hangout tmr.
next morning, she tells me shes gonna go hang out with her friend in another borough and told me she wasn't available that day
i shrug it off and said maybe next time.
two days later, i text her in the morning and started talking a bit. i complimented and negg her a bit to try and maintain attraction.
so i told her that night i was gonna go to Dave and busters with some friends and we have 2 room left. she tells me she was just gonna stay home and hang out with her family that day. so w/e i shrug it off and asked a few of our friends in common just to make it look like i was inviting every 1.
before i went out that next day, I had to help her dad sell something on craigslist, so i dropped by , pick up the item and pretty much ignored her mostly, but as i was leaving, her mom came to the door and told me to say bye to her( i guess the mom kinda knew i liked her and the mom kinda likes me too) so i went and sat next to her on the coach and touched her on the shoulder to tell her i was leaving and wished her luck at her new job the next day. but she kinda stayed on her laptop.

Sorry is a long read guys, but i need the help.

i been trying to ignore her for the last 2 days but is kinda hard. she texted me this morning but i haven't responded yet.
i have pretty much done all the beginning steps in the book, from creating attraction, to dhv, but i may gotten pretty close to friend zone somewhere along the way so i'm trying to stay out of that place.

Oh yea, two other things, she knows i have a gf but i told her we are taking some time apart. i kinda told her that my gf wasn't the right girl for me.

the other thing is, there's another guy in our marketing class that's trying to bag this girl,although im pretty sure i have the better position here, because i have a car lol. and that im closer to her age than he is. shes 25, im 23 and his just turn 21. he did some major cock blocking thou, he always try to work a lot of kino on her and sht but shes been brushing him off a bit, but she still talks to him so his def. still in the game.

So i told her dad i was gonna go over and give him the money tomorrow for selling his sht on craigslist the other day, should i try to get her to go out again tmr or just ignore her when i come over?

Well, now that you've shown this much interest in the girl and now it's obvious that even her mom knows you're interested, why not just go ahead and freeze her out?

Thank you wardriver for your input, that's actually what two of my friends suggested also and i had been doing that for the last couples days.
After i read your post, i looked up on other freeze out experiences and found this thread.
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Basically it works if the girl doesn't have any other guys interested in her or if your kino game was great that you got her nuts about you.
but in my case, it totally backfired.
to quote agentprovocateur whom summarize the situation very well.
"Girls, on average, have far more options than guys as males are the pursuers and as such girls are getting far more guys throwing themselves at their feet than guys get girls. In short, girls have to expend little to no energy to get guys chasing them (many of average to good looking girls simply have to walk out their homes to get hit on). So freezing out a girl who has much more options than you do (she can replace you rather easily) particularly when she's not even that invested in you is a sure way to lose her for good."

Once I realize how much I screw up by freezing her out the last few days, I re-initiated contact and found out the other guy is already at the finish line. cuz i got her to spill that they already went out 2x in the last 5 days.
It sucks because this girl was pretty cool since shes actually smart and had natural beauty and we shared common interests and values + her last bf didn't fck her for 8 months! I really wanted to be the one to have fck fest on her but o wellz.
I actually took my gf out on a date instead and she was extra horny since i ignored her for the last 3 weeks because i told her I had finals and projects for the semester.

I guess in the end I solve my problem, and actually got myself pretty detached from the new girl.
when she told me about it, I played off like it was nothing, I told her i was happy for them and asked when they were gonna make it official in our social circle.
I know that my next step is to use her as a friend to advance my career and social circle.
somewhere down the line, i'll fck this guy over with the straw-man tech just for the hell of it lol straw-man-technique-vt43374.html

Well guys, I hope that my situation provided some useful insight to the community someday.
and to reiterate
Attraction, Comfort and Kino must go together, otherwise, you'll end up like me. missing some decent pussy.

What is wrong with you? You sir, have issues. Are you a sociopath, by any case? I'm only guessing because this behaviour would be characteristic. Let me just summarize what you have been up to recently.

#1 You broke a relationship only to fuck the girl. While this is immoral to begin with, you top that with having a girlfriend too, and consistently lying to basically everyone.

#2 You have been abusing the trust of many people. Including your girlfriend, this other girl, and her family. You don't seem to feel any regret.

#3 You're on your way to fuck it up for the next guy too because... well because it seems like fun to you.

I hope you either come back to the real world, or that a bigger fish will fuck your life up too so that it's not going to be fun anymore when you're the victim.

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Im sorry buddy, I think you may have misunderstood my situation because I haven't provided full detail since i didn't want to bore everyone with it.
1. I didn't break their relationship to fuck her, her relationship was already at a weak point because she was unsatisfied, both sexually and emotionally.
2. my relationship with my girlfriend is also near it's end because we haven't been really compatible with each other and the only thing that kept is going is the sex. i actually tried to break up with her 2x in the last year but she begged me to take her back. and i have been genuinely nice to every-bodies families.

3. i do kind of want to fuck him over because it is fun and his been an asshole, I actually helped him out in class and in our group a few times but he hasn't return the favor so I feel justified to fuck him over lol.

Well okay then. That's another case so I understand it. Sorry about the flip-out.

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is cool dude, I was actually surprise by your reaction because i saw some of your posts too and i have respect for you and everything.
basically my relationship is at
1) We don't match & 2)I'm not happy in the relationship. in your guide extended-relationship-guide-vt170687.html
But I guess is pretty common in any long term relationships, most people can change so drastically in 3-4 years especially when your in college.
I can understand it from a psychology point of view also in terms of the 7 psychology stages most relationship goes through. but there's only so much i can do to contribute if she isn't as determined or too spoiled. sometimes, you really can't change people because they been that way for so long in their life.
When i see people with trophy wifes, i am amaze at how the husband is able to maintain a successful lifestyle even thought he isn't mentally on-par with his wife. Especially, when deep down, the guys know that they can't express any of thoughts and feelings to their wife because she knows nothing else to do but shop and suck dick.
Perhaps you can shine some lights on this

Yes indeed I very rarely bash on forum members, but I guess you can see that without the other details it seemed a bit fucked up, haha.

About that other thing, I can think of a thousand reasons why people do that. I think I could list the most common things:

Reason #0. Quickly settling. I nominate this the #0 cause because if men would screen properly then none of the others would be a concern.

Reason #1 He's just too used to it. It happens with women too. Sometimes people are just so used to being with someone after a long time that they just can't end it. Even if they know they should, even if they don't feel well, people are always afraid of a change. Right now for them life sucks, but at least they have something that is sure. Someone is waiting for them at home. If they suddenly break up then they will have to start everything all over. And that's a really scary thought.

Reason #2 Children. Many people still think that they shouldn't divorce when their children are young because they think it would affect them negatively. They want to keep the family image to them(and to everyone else) nice and perfect. By the time the children grow old enough for this to not be a concern, well then they either actually get a divorce or then comes Reason #1. I know several couples with both cases.

Reason #3 They think they can't do better. Typical chump behaviour. Usually with stressful, but well-paying jobs. They got some hot gold digger and they're too insecure. They think if they ditch their girl they would probably die alone and sad. If they stay they will just be sad. Meanwhile the woman has banged half of the neighbourhood but the husband is either too stupid to notice, or just gave up completely and doesn't care.

Reason #4 They're morons with only 2 neurons with a vice-versa inhibiting synapse between them. There are really people so dumb to think, that women are only looks. They are only sex objects, so as long as she sucks and she's hot, he wouldn't bother. His superficial life is perfectly fine this way.

I think these are the most commons, and the roots of most other reasons as well.

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lol I like how you describe reason 0, that is pretty accurate, I've done that with my previous relationships.
you reasons are pretty much dead on for most people, sometimes I get so tired of talking to guys that are just set on a girl for their looks. I guess lust overrules the brain for most people.

I imagine your profession as a relationship therapist or sex therapist,with your expensive experience in the field, or at least some kind of psychology or sociology background. Am i correct?

My profession is studying at a medical university right now. I just have a good sense of human psychology, which will be useful, as I'm studying to be a psychotherapist/psychiatrist.

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