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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:56 pm 
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so i was at the university.. i saw this HB alone in the room.. i counted 3 seconds and i went in..

theRocker: is the english language exam here?
HB: yes!

I didn't say anything else and without caring about her I sat just in the only chair in front of her, giving her my back, and pretending to search something in my bag..

she moved to an other chair at her right and opened me..

HB: do you know if the exam... (and other bullshits)

i started replying to her, first continuing searching staff in my bag, then beginning to move sometimes my body in her direction in order to look her in the face and giving her my back again.

so after some small talks, i began my routines, telling stories, demonstrating higher value.. i talked about my experiences abroad, my activities as president of a student association, and she seemed very interested in what i were telling.. it found out she is 28 and I immediately told her I am 24.
then when her friend arrived, i asked her to introduce me to him..

finally i decided to move to join my friends, thinking to go to her again after the exam..

after the exam i was waiting for her out of the room.. i was talking to the phone so i didn't look like i was waiting for her.. she saw me and acted like she didn't see me, looking around, going nowhere.. so i went to her, we spoke a little and finally i invited her to go to have a coffee together.. she accepted.. (this is my first instant date!!!! XD )

so we moved by car to a bar and we had an aperitif.. at the bar I told her a lot of stories, and interesting staff about me.. i used some kino, touching her arm, or her leg..

also i took my phone saying nothing for a few seconds and then i moved my chair closer to her..

theRocker: here, look! (and i moved my chair closer to her) this is a picture of a party I organized 2 weeks ago!

I also used the routine of the qualities..

theRocker: beauty is common.. tell me.. what is your best quality.. something that should let me think to know you more..
HB: I'm sweet..!!

actually her life is not so interesting.. so when i stopped talking, to look her in the eyes, she reacted in an unexpected way..

HB: you should now be thinking "what sort of girl i found today?!!"
theRocker: why?? no.. absolutely!!

and also she asked me a question that let me think she is searching for some serious relationship..

HB: you are not the kind of guy who makes plans for the long term.. aren't you?
theRocker: it depends.. if i like something i put all my passion in it and i can do it for a very long time.. otherwise if I don't really like it I soon lose my interest in it..

Finally i paid for the drinks and when she said "don't worry" i told her next time it will be her time to offer..

so i brought her by car where she had to go and i asked for her number..

HB: so i'm gonna add you on facebook..
theRocker: are you going to give me your telephone number?
HB: no..
theRocker: why?? (!!!!)
HB: because we don't know each other..
theRocker: and that's why you should give me your number.. (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
HB: no...

Finally, after 3 days, she never added me on facebook.. i searched for her and sent her the request of friendship and a message.. and she didn't even answer to the message..

any opinion?? any suggestions??


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:20 am 
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she's not interested plain and simple, so you just have to let it go


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:58 am 
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you were lacking in intent and speaking to her like a friend to another friend,

also, you did not get inside the walls and start building that connection, it all stayed in the superficial relm of qualification, this is a good time for you show your interest in her if you have any

when the girl tells you what she posses and you like those qualities, you make it known that you like those qualities, if you are using the mystery method, you hide your intentions and false disqualify until she is investing (showing interest), interest does not mean she is grabbing your crotch or telling you how hot you are (although this certainly does indicate interest this is stronger then what you are looking for), it just means she is attentive and interested in the conversation and speaking with you, and has shown a couple signs that you are interesting to her (not nessicarily sexually), this is your que to hit on her, but you do it specifically using qualification (bait out good qualities from her, and when she qualifies that she posses those qualities, let her know that she qualifies, then dis-qualify her to remove the tension)

think of kino not as just something random you do, but it is a test to see how compliant she is, take it further and further, just to see how comfortable she is with you, if you can put you hand on her shoulder, later on see if she seems comfrortable with you putting it around her shoulder, don't worry about her knowing that you like her, and don't turn it into one of those moments where you are waiting for a reaction that makes or breaks the convo, when you show your intentions, just remain congruent to them and assume she is attracted to you, no matter what she says, just assume she is attracted, you can even tease her about it or w/e your style is,

also a neat little trick for you reguarding the phone numbers, with the ''kino'' if a girl will willingly let you put your arm around her or hug her without any resistance, she will probably give you her phone number, and an easy way to solve later problems, is ask her to see you again outside of where you met her, instead of asking for the number, it kills two birds with one stone, if she wants to hang out, the phone number just comes as a result, and you don't have to spend time over the phone thinking about when is a good time to ask her out, you already did and she agreed,

also asking her out instead of asking for the number, the frame is set so that it is her that you are interested in and not some egotistical conquest like a phone number in order to validate your ego (continueing talking to a girl after you get the number can also set this frame well for you)

to simplify qualification with an example it's sort of like:

really?, you're sweet?, I love sweet girls!, my last crush was actually such a sweetheart, that makes you sooo fucking hot in my eyes, but there must be something wrong with you, you can't be all sweetness can you? you probably are some sort of player or something aren't you (then you continue the qualification from there, eventually you will have a whole list of reasons for why you like her or a whole lot of easy ways to tease her, for more info on the premasis behind this, look up classical conditioning)

^ also with mysterys line, he uses push and pull, you missed one of the important parts of the line, ''LISTEN YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL, but beauty is common, what's really important is a great energy and outlook on life, what sort of qualities do you posses that would make me want to get to know you better?''

you are missing the intentions, it is a push and a pull, not a push and a push and a push this will de-validate girls and eventually they will assosiate negative emotions to you, and it is not a pull and a pull and a pull, this will shoot out a needy desperate easy to get vibe


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