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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:40 pm 
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Ok I've been messing about with some stuff that's a bit different, I don't know if anyone does this or has done this before.
I started out by bouncing sets, i.e opening several sets and bouncing between them kinda like stacking multiple takeaways, it's effective at building higher value as we all know.
What I've done different the last couple of nights is actively bring two sets together and make introductions, so your technically leading two sets, or you king them.
This will raise your value by about 2x more than building rappor in a standard set, it should be quicker to, by spending 5 minutes in multiple sets and bouncing them you should build some good attraction after introductions too.
I got the idea from Lyons actually, because he would invite several people to the same venue and so look really popular, and be able to pick the girls he liked.
I figured I'd try and do the same thing only in venue, kind of advanced meta-game.
Ok why, why would I go to the trouble of doing this?
Well two fold:
- Build higher value quickly
- use the two sets to distract any obstacles.
Let me give you an example:
last night I opened lots of sets in the same bar, I talked with one group of girls imparticular a set of 5 I think, with 2 hb 7.5 and 3 hb 7's. They were a nice bunch and very open for talking. I introduced my wing and let him take care of half the set which he did like a pro.
I needed the toilet so I excused myself. On the way back I met two guys who were obviously on the lookout for girls. I thought they might be PUAs to begin with, but they never approached and later I saw them buying drinks for some girls I had previously shot down for trying that tactic on me. I smiled at the girls for their excellent execution and had a word with the guys for being played.

So I introduce the girls from the 5 set to the 2 set of guys. I know what your thinking, why would I introduce competition to a set I already had control over?
Well I figured that the guys would think I'm a great guy for introducing them to some girls, the girls would think Im great because I brought in some AFC's to buy them drinks, which they duly did.
I then had some fun with photo taking, as a photo was being taken I grabbed the arse of one of the hb 7.5 it was a classic break in rapper and it worked, everyone laughed and it was funny, should be a good photo too.

I figured I needed to isolate, now that the blocks we're taken out of the equation. This is where I let myself down. I got distracted with a hb8 who was a kiwi. I was too direct and fucked the set up I had to eject, the problem was I was on a time restraint because my train was leaving at 12.
I went back to the now mixed set of 7 and started to try and build attraction with the other brunette 7.5, this was a mistake I should have stuck to the blond 7.5 who's arse I had grabbed earlier. By switching girl and rushing attraction I failed on getting a second day or even a number.

Over all it was a good night, I fucked up a few sets but did lots of good stuff. My meta-game was good and I tried some new stuff out. I need to work on building more attraction and not getting distracted by other shinier girls.

Has anyone ever tried leading multiple sets and using them to counder the obstacles?
I think if I had more time It would have been even more successful.
I'd be interested to see if other PUAs can use this technique.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:45 pm 
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This is an excellent post and my wing and I have done this.
I usually go into the club and meet everybody I can (guy or girl) for this very purpose. Its also a very alpha quality and creates a lot of social proof.

Merging the sets is a great tactic. Typically my wing and I will go off and sarge our own sets for a while, then I'll see him with his set and I'll move my set or he'll move his (Say something like "Oh theres my friend Brian he's the funniest guy you'll ever meet, come on") and we merge our sets, thereby creating what I like to call a megaset (We've merged and created 12 sets in the middle of the dancefloor). The social proof this gives us is outrageous.

I love the tactic of having the AFC's buy your girls drinks because 1. The afcs are gonna make you look that much better when you outgame the shit out of them. 2. Its creating a social dynamic by showing the girl that you're not needy and have very high confidence.


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This is an excellent post and my wing and I have done this.
I usually go into the club and meet everybody I can (guy or girl) for this very purpose. Its also a very alpha quality and creates a lot of social proof.

Merging the sets is a great tactic. Typically my wing and I will go off and sarge our own sets for a while, then I'll see him with his set and I'll move my set or he'll move his (Say something like "Oh theres my friend Brian he's the funniest guy you'll ever meet, come on") and we merge our sets, thereby creating what I like to call a megaset (We've merged and created 12 sets in the middle of the dancefloor). The social proof this gives us is outrageous.

I love the tactic of having the AFC's buy your girls drinks because 1. The afcs are gonna make you look that much better when you outgame the shit out of them. 2. Its creating a social dynamic by showing the girl that you're not needy and have very high confidence.
It's quite fun to be able to manipulate several groups, it's not really a selfish act either all the sets get something out of it. They would only be sitting in the corner hoping someone would talk to them anyway.
Sdmuzik do you have problems with isolating your target when you do this? I found it helps but I only used 2 sets, it must be mayhem with more than 5?


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This is an excellent post and my wing and I have done this.
I usually go into the club and meet everybody I can (guy or girl) for this very purpose. Its also a very alpha quality and creates a lot of social proof.

Merging the sets is a great tactic. Typically my wing and I will go off and sarge our own sets for a while, then I'll see him with his set and I'll move my set or he'll move his (Say something like "Oh theres my friend Brian he's the funniest guy you'll ever meet, come on") and we merge our sets, thereby creating what I like to call a megaset (We've merged and created 12 sets in the middle of the dancefloor). The social proof this gives us is outrageous.

I love the tactic of having the AFC's buy your girls drinks because 1. The afcs are gonna make you look that much better when you outgame the shit out of them. 2. Its creating a social dynamic by showing the girl that you're not needy and have very high confidence.
It's quite fun to be able to manipulate several groups, it's not really a selfish act either all the sets get something out of it. They would only be sitting in the corner hoping someone would talk to them anyway.
Sdmuzik do you have problems with isolating your target when you do this? I found it helps but I only used 2 sets, it must be mayhem with more than 5?
It can be quite the challenge at times. Sometimes it's jus not possible and in that case my wing and I will manage the group the best we can and get a number close. Or jus close body language wit the rest of the group and focus on my target to create a private convo withh her. But some girls will kiss you in front of her friends.

One kiss close Ive had a lot of success within a group is the 3 part kiss close where you point to each cheek and then your lips. But dont suck her face off. Keep it innocent enough to where she dosent feel dirty. It will leave her wanting more and may allow you to isolate as it builds her comfort with you.

When youre within the group what kind of routines are you running? And how are you disarming the afcs you bring in?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:16 pm 
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I didnt really use any routines. I used observational humour, cocky funny and some stealth attraction.
It's the first time I've been out with my wing and I didn't want to use the same routines.
He used a few though, styles 5 lies game, and a photo opinion opener but converted to a mid game piece.
The routines I use if any are normally cold reading, ESP and the Greek gods 5 rings.

What do you use?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:18 pm 
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At this point the routines I use are my own or my own modifications of other peoples. I found that way Im more congruent.
If I'm in the club and its loud depending on my calibration I really wont get into many routines, instead I'll use a lot of playful teasing, false dqs, and push and pull. Say if a girl tells me shes drinking a margarita I'll say "Oh god, what kind of person are you" Then I can go a million different ways after that
Once I build enough comfort I'll attmept to isolate and then I'll run a routine or 2 to lead into a kiss close.
If you wanna share some routines send me a message, I'd be happy to trade a few original ones with you. I have one I call the suicidal hypnotist, its golden


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At this point the routines I use are my own or my own modifications of other peoples. I found that way Im more congruent.
If I'm in the club and its loud depending on my calibration I really wont get into many routines, instead I'll use a lot of playful teasing, false dqs, and push and pull. Say if a girl tells me shes drinking a margarita I'll say "Oh god, what kind of person are you" Then I can go a million different ways after that
Once I build enough comfort I'll attmept to isolate and then I'll run a routine or 2 to lead into a kiss close.
If you wanna share some routines send me a message, I'd be happy to trade a few original ones with you. I have one I call the suicidal hypnotist, its golden
I tried to message you but it just gets sent to my outbox and stays there.
Its a shame we're not in the same country, we seem to have similar style game, I'd have liked to sarge with you.
I'm happy to exchange some routines and tactics with you. I'm interested to find out about this suicidal hypnotist.


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I'll try to send you one now so lemme know if you get it. Ya it is a shame good wings are hard to come by.


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I'll try to send you one now so lemme know if you get it. Ya it is a shame good wings are hard to come by.
Nope nada, maybe we should get a mod on this. Hey might mods of pick up fix my account will ya?


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