Crossposted to TennLair, pickup-artist-forums, and Yahoo Nashville Lair group:

In the past few weeks I've opened more sets than I probably have in the last decade of my life. The going has been rocky but I feel like I'm catching on.

I've had so blow outs and bad sets and I'm hear to live, I don't know what I've been so afraid of, very few people are rude to you. I had one set tell us to "go away and have fun," another was completely off with their body language, one said "I don't want to talk about this at a bar," the best one said "I know you weren't fucking talking to me".

It's whatever, it's their loss and their live.

Here's the actual question I have:

Of the sets I've opened, the most receptive have been the real attractive girls. The ones which get a lot of looks when they walk in the bar... as opposed to maybe the less attractive who have been more "stand offish".

With that said, I've been working on kino escalation now. Now when I open a set I try to casually start touching the arm and moving up from there. What I noticed on these two sets below is there is a point where, after touching a bit and escalating, the body language COMPLETELY changes.

You literally see it happen. The girl goes from a little bit more reserved to coming closer to you, playing with her hair, etc etc. What stage is this right here? Like I said, it's a change I noticed in the receptive sets and when I was talking to my 'target.'

Examples:

One:
My wing and I open a set at Cadillac Ranch. Basically an open-ended ex-gf question. (Funny side story: He points them out to me and says "look at their bodies" - we literally had to run around the bar so we could run into them to open).
Anyway, we finish the opener and start just general chit chat. My wing's target seemed more into him which made put off at first but I began the kino and just kept touching and touching - suddenly there was a point in which my target's body language completely changed. She started playing with her hair touching me, etc etc.

What's funny is I ended up number closing her friend later. We joked about not remembering each others name. I texted her later that night and she wrote "who are you" and then ";)" as a response. I forgot that I had joked with her about not remembering her name and wrote back "are you slow??? we met tonight."

Oops, I forgot. We actually ejected from the set because my wing's girl was coming to the bar. I forced myself to go back and grab the number. She made sure that she got mine too.

Two:
I was at Graham Central Station with my same wing, we were talking to a set of two girls when they suddenly got kicked out for drinking underage. Oops.

Out of my eyes I see three beautiful girls. I told my wing I was going to approach even though their distance and the tables in the way made it difficult - I'm glad I did.

We opened with an ex-gf question and began to talk. The set ran fairly well, I know a lot about different cultures and countries so once the opener was done we transitioned easily.
The girls ended up being from Europe and were nannying and studying in the country.

My friend talked to two of them and I focused on the one I was interested in. We kept talking so I started touching her arm in different places casually as I talked, had her lean in ,etc.. After that I brushed my hand across her stomach and felt a belly button ring, so I used that to revisit that place again. She didn't stop or move me. After that I pretended to brush something off her cheek.

As we were talking I noticed she wasn't giving me iois such as touching me back or open body language but as I kept touching her I noticed that "change" again and she became more receptive to the touch, started playing with her hair, etc etc.

Is this "change" when they suddenly become attracted? What should be done at this point?

My friend threw in a time constraint about us going to another bar (so we could get more practice in)... I actually ended up getting a girl who wasn't my target's number. I got the one girl's number and then said to my target "I want your number too" She said she didn't know it... Lol, i don't know whether to believe that or not but I don't think she had a phone with her.

Anyway we ran into the girl's later in the night when we were leaving (again my wing had to meet his gf, ugh) and recommended a bar to them. I texted her later asking her what she thought about it and gave her a call today to talk bullshit, get her last name so I could fb friend her and see who her friend (my target is)... also to use these girls as 'pivots.'


Anyway, I'm rambling. For the main question of my post:

"What is it called when the body language completely changes to open? It seems noticeable and at what 'stage' is this?"