So my game is coming along quite nicely, my openers are situational, I neg well and appropriately. I'm good at reading chicks and getting into some nice psych stuff. I'm good at making eye contact and knowing if a women is receptive or not, this one was huge as all my openers are good because I already know the women is interested in me.

I've been focusing on night game (clubs) and it seems like I just get into this dead zone, they are very attracted at first, I'm doing lots of good kino and they are responding, but somewhere it just dies. I'm not sure if its because I'm talking too much, not keeping it fun enough or what.

Basically, I come in, I get a good opener, they respond, I can tell by the body language, I'll start talking about something, I might Neg. I may switch over to the friend and leave the target high and dry for a while, start hitting it off with the friend. My favorite topic is psychology, so I like to get into that, but at this point it just kind of falls apart for me. It's as if the conversation is getting too drawn out and I'm just not taking it anywhere.

For example.

I walk up to HB8 and HB6, HB6 is pretty receptive and we start having like this little dance off before we even start talking. I say something like "you got descent moves, but you still could use a little work". Of course shes like "pffft, whatever buddy". We exchange a few lines, maybe I said something like "are you having a good time tonight, talking a bit, shes asking me a few questions, which shows me IOI, but no touching or anything, I touch her a bit, but more friendly then sexual". I then switch over to HB8 and just look at her for a sec, kinda measuring her up and say "your dress looks like a drug dealers couch". She gets the shocked look, hits me and says something like "HEY!", I'm just looking at her like "ya, I just said that", I can see the attraction forming in her eyes already. This is where it just kind of starts going down hill. I start kino with her a little and I just go off on tangents. I said something like "I like to determine a womens level of insecurity", which as soon as it leaves my mouth I know its no good. My wing comes by and he revives thing a little, as he occupies the HB6. So I start talking more with HB8, she asks for my name, but wing is not really going anywhere and set is falling through. The women are starting to read each others body language, its obvious they wanna bail on us. I try one last line where I say, "I'm here to meet fun and interesting people tonight" and the HB8 looks at me and says, "we're fun" and points to her self. She is looking at me like "I'm right here, you're just playing stupid games".

Anyway, I can list like ten stories like this, any suggestion or even sources on this part of game? I'm thinking maybe I just need to show some boldness and show some balls and take it more sexual? Just not sure how. My goal for now is just get solid number closes. If I get a makeout session or lay, thats just secondary. The problem is, I'm not even sure what exactly the problem is, so don't even know what to tackle and work on.

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