I was at a small party thursday night, and I opened with the "looks like the party is over here (then i turned to my target and said) if I wasn't gay I would so be all over you." The opener worked... she came up to me 2 minutes later and squeezed my ass and said, "I just wanted to make sure you were gay (with a smile)."

Things were looking up. I was dancing with her for a while getting all the IOI's i needed.

BUT (and a nice one at that) when I tried to isolate her, she resisted and said, "I don't hook up with guys until I get to know them."

and that is where it all started going downhill. After she said she didn't want to hook up I didn't know how to respond.

The worst part is that I'm sure I could have closed with her, but I messed up at the end. What can I do next time if the same situation occurs????

---The D-R-P

There are lot of ways out. As always in human interacts. The fact that she said it to you, proves that she is interested with you. It was BS, I think.

But there is one basic rule. You cannot show her that she has an impact on you. In other words you can't show your emotions, that you are surprised or sad or whatever.

You can be C&F. Smile and say " I won't be the guy u will hook up with" If she answers sth like "so why ur talking with me" You will say " I have to check first if ur worth hooking up with u" Simply saying she is now the one who has lower value and she needs to gain ur interest.

You can be the macho or caveman and say with a confidence (hugging her with ur one arm at the same time and leading into the place of destination) " It doesn't matter, we're going there"

You can also be nice guy and say " I offered you to go there just to talk with you. I do need to get to know u first "


Anyway I think that was Shit Test or Bitch Shield. U wanted to isolate her but you might just have wanted to talk. And she already thought you want to do with her sth more.

Thanks for the great advice!

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Manipulation is such a strong word... I prefer persuasion.

I´m in the same situation as you mate.
I can´t seem to close the deal. It´s pissing me off.

There is something they are not telling us. Girls never speak their mind. That would be far too easy. I bet anyone of the girls we have met would hook up with a guy on the dance floor in no time at all and bump and grind their way into a boys bed with little to no dialogue.

It´s that attraction that we are not creating that over rides any logic.

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The single greatest thing PUA taught me was to open my eyes.

Was out with a friend couple of weeks ago. He used the "If I wasn't gay...." opener. HB says "OMG you're gay? Hey Jim come here you need to meet this guy". Took a while to get rid of Jim after that. Don't think my friend will use that opener anymore.

Haha. That is too funny.

I guess the "If I wasn't gay..." opener could potentially backfire, but I haven't had any problems with it so far.

In the end, the gay opener is really a way to get comfortable saying anything to a HB. The reason I started using it was simply to try and get into the zone.

If you are having a tough time feeling comfortable when sarging, try using this line and you will get the ball rolling!

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Manipulation is such a strong word... I prefer persuasion.

I tried that opener the other day with no success... I kept getting strange looks.

I have mainly switched away from the gay opener to this simple hybrid opener I created (mainly applies to clubs or parties with music):

Walk up to target, smile and say...

PUA: Hey, my friend thinks you kinda cute.
HB stops and looks at you
HB: So why doesn't he come over here? (Or: What! Is he too shy to say something himself?)
PUA: Yeah, he's kinda shy. Wanna dance?
HB: Um, Ok.

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Manipulation is such a strong word... I prefer persuasion.

maybe could have said:

"that's cool" (and start a neutral fun attraction routine) then roll off, neg, test for compliance (e.g. trust test) and then go for it.

or

something similar but taking your time and after 30 minutes go for the kiss.

peace