This is probably my biggest sticking point. After I've greeted someone I already know and we've exchanged the obligatory "how are you?", I simply stagnate. It seems that everything after that point is just forced. Of course it depends on the person, but it happens with most people. (This isn't just applicable to girls, but guys too)

How can I fix this? Are there some techniques I could use or some topics I should try mentioning?

To me it looks like you are having problems with your inner game. All conversation should flow through like a river... if there are hurdles, then it means you need to make an effort to be more inquisitive.

Usually I just ask about how they like the place, or who are they there with, or something about what they are wearing. But if she just gives you a quick answer and doesn't keep the conversation going, I would just say, nice to meet you and move on. She is clearly not interested. I mean, this should be simple... what would you talk about with your friends... it's the same principle... but with questions about the other person. Have you seen this movie, have you tried this food place, or this drink? stuff like that...

Thanks for the reply. I don't think you really understood my question though. I was referring more to people that I already know, NOT girls I'm gaming.

It's not an inner game thing. I'm well aware of all my inner game problems and this isn't one of them. This is purely a case of me not knowing how to make simple conversation (I believe it's called fluff) with strangers. I don't want to just move on. I would like to fix this since it's a crucial part of my personality.

Hi, I talk to strangers all the time, other guys, women, old young ugly good looking it makes no difference to me because its all about practicing my outer game for the time when its really going to matter, i.e when i speak to a potential keeper. Secondly it expands my circle of friends, so when i do go out into Bars or Clubs i know nearly the whole room which makes me seem like the most popular guy in the whole fuckin town.

And besides i know when i exit from that person i have just made a new friend. I would'nt advocate just marching upto a total stranger and blurting something out, UNLESS its woman your after closing, a guy or anyone else would think your a fucking wierdo or gay unlees they have some information you want, just make general conversation with people around you, make open ended statements about your environment, circumstances etc.. that you both find yourself in ask questions that begin with "What" or "How". Sometimes i'll be in the market to upgrade my clothing, i make loads of new male friends this way, i'll go upto a guy and say hey mate i'm into your shoes i wouldnt mind some of them myself, where did you get them ? (i always try to get some kind of statement in here early about whether my girlfriend would like them or i might say "ok i'll drop my girlfriend a hint to go get me some for my birthday" whatever, this is then giving the guy the clear indication that i'm just a friendly non gay guy thats after a new pair of shoes,shirt,suit whatever, i'll go on to ask him who he's out with where there going etc often times he'll introduce me to his social group and then i'll get to know a ton more friends too or his hot sister that magically turns up later (yes thats happend a few times), i've been doing this for over 20 years, when i go out in to my town i can pretty much go into any bar or pub and there will be at least ten people in there that i know quite well.

if you want an example of exactley how to do this, yesterday when i was on the train, there was an average looking blonde within ear shot of me, i was feeling bored so i just opened her for somebody to talk too in a non sexual friendly way, "i'll be glad when i get home" i said, How about you ? where you going ? (your both travelling and going somewhere right, so theres nothing wrong making a comment about your and the other persons reality) Preston she said, ok cool, what do you do in preston i replied, marketing she quipped, "oh that sounds interesting", "whats that involve" i replied ? (Bang i got my open ended question in and i was genuinly interested about learning what that job involves, secondly it was about her job, abit boring and not at all sexual or creepy, but the kicker here is it was about her and people love talking about themselves) all very natural conversation between normal people, before i knew it, i'd had a great conversation with a nice friendly girl and i also learned what marketing is all about, and i was at my destination before i knew it. nothing wierd nothing rehearsed, no creepy lines, all very flowing and natural. Obviously this is nothing to do with picking girls up but about being a good conversationilst with people in general, get this bit right add a few sexual innuendo's and jokes, a bit of kino and your on way to rock solid natural game.

Good Luck

Ahhhh i haven't been on in a long time - good to be back.

Okay, my most recent student is having this same problem aswell.

As you (probably know) I'm a teenage/highschool trainer, soooo this stuff comes up a lot: "I see this girl in school everyday, but i can never think of anything to say!!"
NEVER FEAR
That is absolutely fine and completely natural, especially when you are nervous.
And frankly, no matter what anyone tells you to say; until you find an inner smooth, an inner comfort that lets conversation "flow like a river" this will still happen.

Sounds bad right? Don't worry, here is the good part...

The short-term solution is simple!

Step 1 : Practice openers on strangers, infact, this is the only reason I cold-approach at all (and i do about 150 a month!)

Step 2 : Get good at opening. (Dont worry, this will naturally happen as you do step 1)

Step 3 : Open that girl. (Yeah, the one you like.)

Step 4 : If there is an awkward silence (and there will be!) Act as if it's her fault, or act like you're enjoying it. The silence will lower your value if you don't do either of these.

Basically, make her percieve that you don't care about talking to her (this is one of the main goals of going indirect anyway, right?) So if there's a silence; sit back, smile, and ask "Why'd you do that?" "Do what?" She'll inquire with a smile. "Stop talking!!" It's funny and will prevent your value from lowering. If she asks what to talk about, lean further back and say "I'm not the answer man! You think of somthing!!" WITH A SMILE.

There. Done. Cured.

Happy Gaming.

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Hellfire dude, i'm 40 and have some great experience, but sometimes i'll forget myself especially if i'm on a night out with the guys and the beers are flowing, i'm loving that line when things go quiet "what did you do that for " stop talking....etc ! love it love it love it !

_FlyMan_, thank you for the reply. I like the way you approach people and your attitude towards them. I'll definitely try to incorporate some of this.

Saint Pixie, thank you for the great post. It is very insightful and will go a long way in helping me solve this problem.
As for this, well it's just excellent. Thanks again.

Always glad to help - hey, send me a PM, im trying to get testimolials about me being good at game cause many people dont believe me when i tell them i train because im only 15.. hahaha

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Sometimes people are just fucking hard to talk too.

I mean. I can talk about anything with anybody. Moste people enjoy talking to me.
But every now and then you run into a total retard.

I just thought I should mention something else to.
People can be devided into diffrent categories depending on how their
mind works. Example.

-A person who talks slow is likely to be more emotionell.
"I just love they way it feels. Im so free. The wind in my hair"
In order to create rapport you need to slow down and use more of their language.

-A person who talks fast is is more likely to be visual
They talk faster cause they are describing what they see. Lots of details.
Adjust youself and use their words.

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Saint Pixie is a rele good PUA. Im one of his students in training right now. He always has girls talking to him all of the time, It makes me so jealous!!! When we go to the mall, From personal experience he will go up to a girl(even if her bf is there) spend like 3 mins talking to them and for the rest of the day she will be walking past us alot and trying to get his attention or sumthing. Makes me so jealous. Btw, If u guys got anytips, tell me. We are all here to help eachother

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